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#104859: "Starting MC and cards # needs to be secret until draft is completely over"

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2023年Nov27日 02:59 • Lumin_S • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:

n/a

2023年Nov27日 20:40 • xspuipuke • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:

The same is true in future generations: I can always see how many cards my opponent chooses and which ones they discard before making my choice.

2023年Nov28日 13:31 • Victoria_La • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:

well because of the other bug, I remove the "draft" for first 10 cards, so it a bit moot point now, since you will see corp instantly as soon as its picked and no other cards are drafted

2023年Nov28日 20:19 • CPTNBob • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:

We are actually seeing other corporations prior to choosing our cards to buy instead of it all being hidden until all pick.

2023年Dec1日 00:20 • Victoria_La • 開發者認同這是個好點子，並計劃實行:

I found these rules:

6. Players select 1 of the 2 corporations dealt to them and 0-10 project cards to
keep in their starting hand (each project card costs 3 MC to keep).

7. In turn order, starting with the first player, each player first reveals and plays
their corporation card, triggers any immediate corporation effects and gains all
associated resources and/or production, pays for their starting cards (3 MC per
card, 5 MC for Polyphemos and 1 MC for Terralabs), discards unselected project
cards facedown in the discard pile, and returns unselected corporations to the
box before the remaining players do the same one by one.

I will reimplement the setup to closely follow this instead of current mess

2023年Dec7日 13:19 • bananasplay • 開發者認同這是個好點子，並計劃實行:

When you say that you "found these rules"... are you somehow /not/ implementing this game based off of the rulebook?

I ask because the rules that you quoted, while /effectively/ correct, don't reflect the /actual/ wording from the rulebook.

To support my claim, I'll copy and paste below the relevant rules from the Setup section on p.7 of the rulebook:

5) Deal cards: Players new to Terraforming Mars each get a Beginner Corporation card, while the other players are now dealt 2 normal corporations and 10 project cards.

6) Choose cards: A Beginner Corporation gets to keep all their cards for free, while the other players now simultaneusly [sic] choose which corporation to play, and what project cards to keep in their starting hand. (Each card you keep will cost 3 M€ from the corporation you choose.)

7) Starting conditions: In player order, each player reveal which corporation they will play, get any starting resources and production stated on the corporation card, pay for the cards they keep. Each card costs 3 M€...

2023年Dec26日 11:52 • fundriver • 開發者認同這是個好點子，並計劃實行:

I just stumbled across this, too. I saw the choosen company of the first player already when selecting my company. This is information I shouldn't have while choosing my corporation.

2024年Feb4日 17:25 • Supergravity • 開發者認同這是個好點子，並計劃實行:

Clearly, Victoria_La found the quoted text in either the rules coming with some extension (Polyphemos and Terralabs are not part of the original game) or in some edition past the original.

At any rate, while this free info is strictly speaking an error, it is IMHO not significant enough (on its own) to delay moving to Beta. An example of a significant bug would be 105074 (even though F5 cures that one).

2024年Feb18日 23:57 • Victoria_La • 此建議已獲實施:

ok the setup is completely redone. You pick all at once. Nothing should be revealed untill all players are done

2024年Feb19日 14:31 • Cynthias • 此建議已獲實施:

Very nice! This is a great improvement.
The only thing I still see during setup (while not all players have made their choices) is the number of starting cards:
imgur.com/a/R0VxYmw

2024年Feb20日 12:22 • lammetje • 此建議已獲實施:

The rework of the setup is very nice! Works a lot smoother as well.
I don't see how the number of cards is an issue. When sitting at an actual table you can also see how many cards someone is selecting right?

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