#108032: "Loss and Damage's target unclear"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 請描述顯示問題。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v117
案件沿革
I looked at your replay for 451669425 but while "Change in Major Weather Systems" did appear if I look at moves 210 to the end of the game it did not indicate that additional crisis cards were drawn. This is because it never reached a Tipping Point which is on spaces 5 and 6 for that effect.
Does that make sense? I'm not a developer and am not trying to refute what you are saying in the rest of your report but just wanted to note that from the replay for 451669425 I don't think any additional crisis cards were drawn due to the weather die.
> which then got marked "implemented."
It was marked as implemented because the suggestion you commented on, add "Loss and Damage Fund" to the title bar text, is implemented. You can add a different suggestion in a comment and reasonably expect the scope of the ticket to continually grow. If that were the case, users would just throw in unrelated improvements on popular suggestion tickets, effectively holding the suggestion completion hostage until the additional suggestions were implemented.
Now, I don't see any move number in your suggestion, so I've looked over your entire game, just like @TheInquisitor did. I don't see any point at which additional crisis cards were drawn. So I looked for a point at which a face-down crisis was about to be resolved on which you could activate Loss and Damage Fund. There's one such occurrence towards the end of move 210, the same move @TheInquisitor found. So I replayed that step by step and, wouldn't you know it, the crisis card in question (Fossil Fuel Subsidies) is flipped face up and displayed prominently when the Loss and Damage Fund appears.
If you have a table and move # I should look at to see the problem when crisis cards are drawn mid-turn, I'll take a look. Without any evidence to the contrary, I think the current presentation fulfills the suggestion with respect to the table submitted, so I'm marking this as implemented.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
