#1181: "Blue Team lost against Green without the gate "
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
#67
see the result of 1st round • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
#67
see the result of 1st round • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
#67
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
#67
see the result of 1st round • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 請描述顯示問題。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v35
案件沿革
According to the rules:
A team wins if:
- a dwarf from that team creates the connection to the treasure and the way there
isn‘t blocked by a door of the other color, or;
- a dwarf from the other team creates the connection to the treasure, but the way
there for his or her own team is blocked by a door of the wrong color.
Accordingly to the links given in the BGA Saboteur page (Expansion rules (Saboteur 2) : zmangames.com/rulebooks/Saboteur_2.pdf),
"Splitting the Treasure
Depending on whether there is an uninterrupted path from the start to the treasure or not, the
Gold-Diggers or the Saboteurs win the round. If the path to the treasure is blocked by a door,
only the dwarves from the team of the same color win."
There is no indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
If I'm wrong, could you give me a link with the rule giving the proper explanation about this behavior please ?
2fishki.ru/userfiles/saboteur_2.pdf
Just noticed this thread.
There is actually indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
Please see p.1 of sab 2 rules
New Dwarf and victory conditions (blue and green miners):
".......but they are IN COMPETITION"
"A teams win if one of their own dwarf finishes a path to the treasure."
The second statement would imply that blue opens gold, blue will win. As they are in competition, most likely this would also imply green would not get anything.
Hope this would help.
Hi Sergii,
BGA answered me already.
In fact, both of you are right. Your issue has revealed a translation error.
The programmers of BGA have followed the French rule version of the game. This rule, which I’ve checked long time ago, contains a badly translated sentence which is the cause of the wrong interpretation.
I will inform BGA of it and more importantly the French distributor.
I will keep you updated of any change applied by BGA.
Best regards,
Frederic
30 November 2016 at 10:25
So this was actually a bug, even though our reference rules said it wasn't ;)
It has been fixed today.
- Usually each team wins alone. Blue and green are competing for victory.
- Examples and exceptions:
* If a green digger creates a path to the treasure without any doors, the green team wins.
* If there is a blue door on the path, the blue team wins instead of the green team.
* If there is a blue door and a green door on the path, only the boss and profiteer win.
* If the boss, a saboteur, a geologist or the profiteer creates a path to the treasure without any doors, both teams win together.
The previous implementation did exactly that, so in fact it was correct. I reverted my change to get back to the proper implementation.
Hope things are clear now for everyone with the examples above :)
Have fun!
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
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