Another example on boardgamearena.com/13/rallymandirt?table=524900610&replayFrom=131

And another, but this time as an image: imgur.com/cD6DcgX

And a better example on the same jump: imgur.com/2JmHOxW
boardgamearena.com/11/rallymandirt?table=534431617&replayFrom=639

Only 2 hazards are recorded on the dice, meaning my LoC had to have occured going over the jump in too high a gear (as the log correctly shows), but I can lay out my dice to go over the jump safely and once all have been placed, I then get the option to resolve the LoC.

Resolving the loss of control should be as a result of actually losing control, be it through speeding in the corner or over the jump, not as a result of defaulting to 'the turn must have ended with a LoC, therefore LoC', if that makes any sense.

Yes JC has clarified this a couple different times. Players are not forced to remember which coast dice goes where after they re-allocate after a Flat Out roll. If changing the order of the coast dice would avoid the LoC, then the player ends their turn safely.

boardgamearena.com/4/rallymandirt?table=535740697&replayFrom=151

LoC with a Brake! a 3! and a 4!.

However, even though I was near a jump 3 and a jump 4 space. I was forced to use all 3 hazards rolled. I believe in practice I should be allowed to rearrange and LOC over either of the jumps.

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Hi,

Same problem herer
boardgamearena.com/14/rallymandirt?table=559899092&replayFrom=1496
1st roll of stage 4.

It happened to me twice.
Last occurence here, around step #90
boardgamearena.com/table?table=598023357

Jumped speed 4 on bump 3. Got a warn. Had to place all my dice anyway and got the damages of gear 6 (instead of 4)!!

No, the issue was the game did not recognize HOW we should be placing the dice after an LOC from jumping. If the die rolled is one gear higher than the jump AND that die rolls /!\ (but only rolling individually, not flat out) it will cause a Loss of Control. However, all the game sees is that a LOC happened, so place all the dice until you place 3 warnings. In this case only two warnings were rolled, so the game had me place all dice, then said I had a LOC.

JCB mentioned an exception to the dice rolling over a jump. If a coast die is used (and the gear is higher) and BOTH coast die are used that turn AND only one rolls a warning, then you don't know which it is for. Maybe talk with him and the publisher if you want to program that exception.

I was able to recreate it on table 600485337 move 76

Rally 6 SS2, tile 205b

I place 4, 5, L (jump 4), L, 6 (after finish line). I rolled a 4, 5, L!, L, 6 flat out, which caused a LOC due to rolling a Leader ! (5) on a jump 4. The rule book says this immediately causes a Loss of Control, but ONLY when rolling dice individually. JCB clarified that in a flat out roll it would not cause a LOC. So, according to designer, this is not a Loss of Control.

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HOWEVER, if the publisher says this is a loss of control, then there is another bug.
I placed my dice in the same order to cause the original LOC. The game did not recognize this as a LOC and did not let me end my turn. (BUG)

It did let me play all my dice two different ways
1 - jump at speed 4 and no LOC is caused (yet it resolves as a LOC)
2 - place all my dice as originally done. Instead of the IMMEDIATE LOC at the space (L5!) and giving me 1 minute for turn time, the LOC was resolved after the finish line and my turn time was 10 seconds.

I hope this makes things clearer.

The main problem with jumps is that the game checks for LoC when you roll the dice, instead of checking at the time the car actually travels over the jump. Adjust when the LoC check is made, and this issue gets resolved.