#125897: "Extra turn time for initial selections"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
案件沿革
This is a simple fix that should have been implemented within a second of suggesting it.
See what I did there?
Thanks!
I am adding more time after to compesate for it, but it will only kick in after selection.
3 min should be enought to choose your cards. If not you should play friendly/turn based game.
The turn timer for real-time Terraforming Mars is very short. Even on the slowest setting, it is only 2 minutes and 42 seconds.
Race for The Galaxy has a 5-minute option on the slowest setting, and that's a game that typically only takes 10 minutes TOTAL for a player to make all moves.
There was a spirited discussion a few months ago about a game analysis in which the OP of the thread had not taken the optimal line with the starting hand. High-level players plan out an opening strategy based on the optimal synergy from among their 2 starting corporations, 4 preludes, and 10 project cards. This takes time. And the advice from top players would be for all players to do this. The given time, even on the slowest setting, does not really provide sufficient thinking time to do this.
I very much like the idea of a button a player can click that says, "please give me extra time", as you suggested. At the start of the game, a player would have one such "time bank", and it would add, let's say, 2 minutes. Or whatever amount is deemed appropriate. And maybe every 25 minutes, one more "time bank'" can be added. Sometimes the doorbell rings, or nature calls, or whatever.
It would still feel rushed for choosing the corporation cards, since you have to go through all cards before making a strategy, however it will overall make it a bit better.
I play on the fastest setting, because normally for each turn there is plenty of time to play. It is only the selection phase that doesn't fit the normal game flow.
But, based on the fact that I've been (by multiple people) told it's not possible to add extra time to a specific move, such as the opening move, I don't see how a time bank would be possible either.
Oh, I just realized that I already talked about this in my recent post on May 27th in this very thread.
Okay, so, someone create a new, separate suggestion for "Split up the initial choosing of cards into separate turns for corporations, preludes, and project cards."
a few possible problems:
1) Suggestions can be upvoted but not downvoted. 20 upvotes means nothing if there are 40 people who would downvote if they could. Could someone create a poll in the regular discussion forum where people can vote yes or no?
2) This would add some nuisance back and forth at the start of turn-based games with 3+ players. My understanding is that turn-based players already get irritated when such things occur, hence the ongoing debate about taking single cations in TFM.
3) How would this work exactly? We see all 16 cards, but we need to lock in our corporation choice and then pass the action to the next player? And then, our corporation is locked in without any possibility of undo if we decide we'd rather go in the other direction? When I play preludes, I often change my mind numerous times during the initial card selection process (with regard to my corporation, preludes, and project cards.) The eventual selection is a synergistic choice, not, "Okay, I want Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which preludes go well with Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which project cards go well with these preludes. That's not how people typically make their initial selections.
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- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
