#126907: "Ristiseiska variant should have different penalty for not being able to play the card"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
With BGA's ristiseiska variant there's no default penalty right now, but ristiseiska is practically never played without penalty, it's one of the main aspects of the game.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
With BGA's ristiseiska variant there's no default penalty right now, but ristiseiska is practically never played without penalty, it's one of the main aspects of the game.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
With BGA's ristiseiska variant there's no default penalty right now, but ristiseiska is practically never played without penalty, it's one of the main aspects of the game.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
With BGA's ristiseiska variant there's no default penalty right now, but ristiseiska is practically never played without penalty, it's one of the main aspects of the game.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
With BGA's ristiseiska variant there's no default penalty right now, but ristiseiska is practically never played without penalty, it's one of the main aspects of the game.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
With BGA's ristiseiska variant there's no default penalty right now, but ristiseiska is practically never played without penalty, it's one of the main aspects of the game.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Right now there's no default penalty at all, but even if you do custom rules for it, there closest match is for the last player to not being able to play the card is to get points penalty. We have multiple variants for the penalty here and this isn't that common one.
Basically the main options missing are:
- Last player to not being able to play the card, gets penalty marker and will automatically lose the game even if that player gets rid of all the cards in their hand. This is close to the points penalty so implementing this could be trivial as additional option.
- If you can't play a card, player before you will give you card from their hand. If player before you only has one card, then the card will be taken from player before that player. There are also variants for this action being random draw or so that the player who is going to give the card can pick it themselves. This last option is the variant I feel gives more complexity for the game, since then you don't immediately lose the game if you have most of the aces and kings. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
When I implemented this variant, the rules were from the only English source I could find.
And I haven't received any reports regarding this for 2 years, so I think I won't alter the variants any further.
Basically:
1. If the player is unable to play any card on the table, player must ask the previous player who just had their turn for a card
- Exception 1: you don't have to ask for a card during first round, you can pass, i.e. you can say "Pass" if you can't play any cards
- Exception 2: if the player who just had a turn has only one card, the second player who was last in turn is asked for a card, etc.. If all other players have only one card, let it be agreed that the player does not have to take a card at all.
2. You must not show the requested card when handing it to other players.
3. When the card has been given, the turn moves to the next one, i.e. the person requesting the card may not play a card in that turn after requesting it, even if the card he received fits the table.
4. Player who gives the card can freely pick any card from their own hand to give away.
Source:
www-korttipelit-net.translate.goog/ristiseiska?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
This was from Google translate, see "Requesting a card", "Ohi" means "Pass" in finnish. 4th rule isn't listed because it's already implied, I just added it to description for sake of clarity.
instead of being a game where most of the outcome is already fixed the moment you get the cards at start, you can now play the game strategically and get rid of "bad" cards by forcing people to ask cards from your hand.
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- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
