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#127304: "Can't Move"
#127304: "Can't Move"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Select a dice.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Select a dice.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Select a dice.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
It just says Can't move. It will let me pass.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Select a dice.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v125
案件沿革
2024年Jun13日 23:04 • steve-perkins • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
It would appear that another player can't move also.
2024年Jun14日 04:09 • ODaly • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
On BGG (in this post boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/article/41122244#41122244), JC specifically calls out that players may make an exception to be able to move into the shortcut if they have no other way forward. In the BGG illustration, it's an opponent that's blocking the cut, but the ruling can be applied to dirt tokens as well.
2024年Jun15日 00:08 • ODaly • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
All 3 remaining players in table 521803413 are now stuck. Game is impossible to continue.
2024年Jun16日 15:48 • Phoxtrot • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Yeah, I talked about this a long time ago, it was part of the difficult remaining things to handle
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75256
The case in boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/doomed is actually the same as what is happening at the table here, it is just that the illustration represents the situation before the move that causes dirt to be sprayed (the blockage didn't really happen at the table at that time, I just realized that it could and went ahead to raise the question here and on BGK)
As noted above and in the old suggestion report, the answer from the designer is that the lanes rule should be the one that is dropped in this exceptional scenario so as to unblock the race.
They were talking of putting this into a FAQ, I don't know if they did.
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Important side note:
We didn't however get an answer on BGK to a second problem : what if the blocked car was already in the corner ?
- I think he should be allowed to continue but he'll get a LOC since the speed limit is 0. But that can be very harsh if he was sliding in the first space of the corner and has now to go LOC twice to get out...
- And/or, he could exceptionally be allowed to enter the shortcut from the corner.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75256
The case in boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/doomed is actually the same as what is happening at the table here, it is just that the illustration represents the situation before the move that causes dirt to be sprayed (the blockage didn't really happen at the table at that time, I just realized that it could and went ahead to raise the question here and on BGK)
As noted above and in the old suggestion report, the answer from the designer is that the lanes rule should be the one that is dropped in this exceptional scenario so as to unblock the race.
They were talking of putting this into a FAQ, I don't know if they did.
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Important side note:
We didn't however get an answer on BGK to a second problem : what if the blocked car was already in the corner ?
- I think he should be allowed to continue but he'll get a LOC since the speed limit is 0. But that can be very harsh if he was sliding in the first space of the corner and has now to go LOC twice to get out...
- And/or, he could exceptionally be allowed to enter the shortcut from the corner.
2024年Jun17日 14:31 • BlueBeetle • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Table #521745410
Corner has been reduced to 0. Car not in position to use the shortcut. Cannot move at all.
imgur.com/a/AEuXi0T
Corner has been reduced to 0. Car not in position to use the shortcut. Cannot move at all.
imgur.com/a/AEuXi0T
2024年Jun26日 20:13 • klurejr • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Table #529385739
game does not correctly display what spaces are not open to move into and allows cars to move into them. Now my car is stuck and I cannot move. stuck in a skip turn loop.
game does not correctly display what spaces are not open to move into and allows cars to move into them. Now my car is stuck and I cannot move. stuck in a skip turn loop.
2024年Jul4日 13:17 • JohnG60 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Rallyman Dirt Game Code 532078373
I cannot take a move.
When I click on any dice to plan a trajectory it does not "take" the action and stays on the plan trajectory screen. There is a couple of dirt obstacles adjacent to me but these should not have any effect. Game is currently blocked. I have dice 2/3/4 and one white dice available,I am in 3rd gear and going into a 2/1 corner.
F5 has not had any effect.
I cannot take a move.
When I click on any dice to plan a trajectory it does not "take" the action and stays on the plan trajectory screen. There is a couple of dirt obstacles adjacent to me but these should not have any effect. Game is currently blocked. I have dice 2/3/4 and one white dice available,I am in 3rd gear and going into a 2/1 corner.
F5 has not had any effect.
2024年Jul4日 17:25 • ODaly • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
The dirt tokens always affect the corner spaces for the tile they are on, but do not change the speed of the shortcut. A token would've turned that corner into a 1/0 corner and two or more would make the regular path through the corner completely impassable. Meanwhile the shortcut remains on it's original speed.
If you feel the token placement caused you to misunderstand the situation, please comment on bug?id=128571
If you feel the token placement caused you to misunderstand the situation, please comment on bug?id=128571
2024年Jul17日 19:44 • rafiki_33 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Corner has been reduced to 0 while I was in it. I entered at -1 (the spaces I was on should have been 1) and then someone passed thru the shortcut while I was in the corner and reduced it to -2, making the corner 0 and stranding me mid-slide.
boardgamearena.com/10/rallymandirt?table=537737516&replayFrom=234
boardgamearena.com/10/rallymandirt?table=537737516&replayFrom=234
2024年Jul26日 16:50 • MyBoardGameAddiction • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Same here: 534161856
Please note I was somehow able to crash in a corner that was already at 0. Then unable to move forward.
Please note I was somehow able to crash in a corner that was already at 0. Then unable to move forward.
2024年Jul30日 23:43 • JeromeLon • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
table=541304199&replayFrom=2620
In this one there are indeed dirt tokens nearby, but no dirt token just in front of me, and I am still getting the "Can't move" whatever move I am trying to make.
In this one there are indeed dirt tokens nearby, but no dirt token just in front of me, and I am still getting the "Can't move" whatever move I am trying to make.
2024年Jul31日 00:27 • JeromeLon • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Here is a video of what it looks like from the player's perspective: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhQhCmii3dI
2024年Jul31日 01:18 • JitaKyoei • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Good morning,
participating in JeromeLon's game, seeing the video he shared, I think that it is not a bug, but a programming error which does not take into account two elements from the rules (these elements have for sources the rulebooks in French and leaves it to you to check that these elements are in the same places in the English rules):
- page 10 (green box): "if nothing prevents you from doing so, you must move at least one space per turn".
- page 15: "Special Cases: if you encounter a case that is not explained here, you are advised to resolve it in the way that seems most logical to you.
As it stands, JeromeLon should be able to advance around the corner of a square and suffer a Crash there. In the next round, he should be able to advance using Die 1 where several scenarios can be considered:
1. he is only allowed to advance one die 1 per turn, as long as he is in the impassable turn.
2. he can advance by one Dice 1 combined with the White or Orange Dice as long as he is in the impassable zone.
3. he does not have the right to make a Big Attack as long as part of the movement is underway, starting in an impassable zone.
4. he must still roll the selected Dice: if the Danger symbol appears, he suffers a Loss of Control.
participating in JeromeLon's game, seeing the video he shared, I think that it is not a bug, but a programming error which does not take into account two elements from the rules (these elements have for sources the rulebooks in French and leaves it to you to check that these elements are in the same places in the English rules):
- page 10 (green box): "if nothing prevents you from doing so, you must move at least one space per turn".
- page 15: "Special Cases: if you encounter a case that is not explained here, you are advised to resolve it in the way that seems most logical to you.
As it stands, JeromeLon should be able to advance around the corner of a square and suffer a Crash there. In the next round, he should be able to advance using Die 1 where several scenarios can be considered:
1. he is only allowed to advance one die 1 per turn, as long as he is in the impassable turn.
2. he can advance by one Dice 1 combined with the White or Orange Dice as long as he is in the impassable zone.
3. he does not have the right to make a Big Attack as long as part of the movement is underway, starting in an impassable zone.
4. he must still roll the selected Dice: if the Danger symbol appears, he suffers a Loss of Control.
2024年Aug3日 08:04 • ODaly • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Jerome, it's because the dirt tokens are affecting the corner spaces even though they are placed on the shortcut. The shortcut itself is not affected by the tokens, only the spaces on the road. I have made a report for this same issue here
/bug?id=128571
/bug?id=128571
2024年Aug22日 14:49 • derby-digital • 錯誤已修復:
Hello,
we have released a new version and i should resolve the issue. It will only be available on new table (after 2024/08/22 15:00)
Thanks for your patience
we have released a new version and i should resolve the issue. It will only be available on new table (after 2024/08/22 15:00)
Thanks for your patience
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
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