#13610: "Professional variant should be treated as a separate game"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
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The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v77
案件沿革
6Nimmt specific at all to me.
Kingdomino (7x7 mode) or RFTG (2 phases/turn) are good examples of games which are just COMPLETELY different @2 or 4 players.
IMO, Mixing the ELO and other things, like game parameters doesn't make any sense for tihs kind of reasons, but... well, doing things in a proper way would probably be a lot of work.
For instance the top couple players in nimmt play only 2-player. Most players that reach the top 5 will never have an opportunity to play them...they will never meet. So 2-player vs 5-player is even a bigger difference than pro vs normal.
The main reason this would be a good idea is that an expert player that only plays normal wont join a pro game (and vice versa) because it hurts their elo and it's not a game they excel at.
One of the best examples of different games in one is checkers (draughts). The 4 variants: Checkers, International Draughts, Brazilian Draughts and Russian Draughts even have separate Wikipedia entries (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Draughts_variants) and especially checkers vs international draughts have completely different player bases.
I am sometimes on a normal game and a pro and I am obliged to go and see the options each time
With this logic, tons of games with expansions or variants will be split into 'different games'.
These two games are as different as the games "Hearts" and "Spades". Although they use the same components and mechanics, the games are completely different. Note: The components for "Hearts" and "Spades" come in the same box, but are considered two different games.
Saboteur and Saboteur2 are sold as two separate games in different boxes, yet for some reason on BGA they are consolidated into one game.
The two "Crew" games are about as different as the two "Saboteur" games, but the names are slightly more different, so this must be the reason they are two games instead of one.
My point is there isn't a hard and fast rule on BGA about this. 6 Nimmt is one of the most popular games and is plagued by this confusion more than other games that I know of.
So I support this request.
I already rejected this, and this will never be accepted by either BGA or the publisher as well.
Actually I tried doing a similar thing in Gomoku before (separating Gomoku and Caro), then it was rejected by BGA.
If you want to affect Arena mode setting, you should rather persuade gurus than pursuing an unobtainable goal like this.
Also, your analogy is wrong. A playing card set is not a 'game box' with predefined rules.
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