#136443: "Information from wrong perspective displayed during replay"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
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#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
imgur.com/ox6QHyH
#7
When replaying a game from my opponent's (Korantined) perspective, I still get to see which card I (Phoxtrot) got back from an exchange which doesn't make sense as Korantined didn't have that information.
I think that the problem *only* exists when replaying a game in which you played but from a different perspective.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v128
案件沿革
Same in game 556764745, the *only* information about my own hand when replaying form the opponent's perspective is the card I got back from the exchange right when I got it back. Which by very nature of the game is mathematically impossible to know at more than 50% right at that time.
In fact, whenever I do a replay, from anyone's perspective, Including my own, I never see any of the indications made manually but I do, sometimes, see the information about what the other player got in exchange.
Contrarily to what I said earlier, it can happen when viewing from my own perspective as in this game : 556387688 , when replayed from Phoxtrot perspective, I get to see what the opponent got in return from the exchange.
But it is not for all game, in 556515976, I made an exchange but I don't see what I got in return when viewing from the opponent's perspective.
It's not all that important as it's most likely just in replay. But I do have to wonder if some hidden information might also sent to the client (but not displayed) during actual play allowing hackers to cheat.
The global issue of not seeing what the player actually put on their sheet during replay only makes it a bit harder to improve oneself by doing replays of good players.
You can, through questions and inferences from opponent's questions know what the hidden cards in the center of the table are. But you cannot know which one is which as long unless you exchange them or ask a question after an opponent's question or make an inference about an opponent question (again made after the exchange).
This is by the very design of the 2 players game. So at the time player A exchanges a card, player B cannot possibly know what card it is, he might know collectively what the innocent card and the criminal card are but not which one is which, not until at least one more question is asked by someone. Unless, of course, there is a hack (which there probably isn't) or a player talks too much (which wasn't the case in the examples given).
So, it is not the only information the player has recorded, but is just only one of them.
Still, there is something weird in the timing. Replay shows the notation to be made just after the exchange which is not a moment where the opponent could have the information.
But I guess it's just the replay that shows that one information earlier than the moment at which the player actually noted it which would also explain why I don't see it happening in every game I replayed (but I guess only in games where the player did figure out at some point after the exchange that I had that card).
It does display an information at a moment in the replay where the player shouldn't it; which I think would still qualify as a display bug but it's not important.
After all, everyone should be able to replicate the problem if it exists.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
