#14108: "Fighter, ranger and wizard should activate when quest is completed notwhen crafting."
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
193
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
193
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
193
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
193
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
193
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
193
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
案件沿革
Fighter, Ranger, Wizard – After you do a quest of the indicated hero type,
you may pay 1 coin to draw a treasure of the indicated color. You get this
bonus whether you started or finished the quest, but only once per quest.
The King's Guild #61607796, move #39: Pompkin crafts the Shield from Sail to Bloodsand Beach. He started the quest, but he had not the Ranger in play.
Move #115: Pumpkin puts Ranger in his guild.
Move #193: biszibosz crafts the Jeweled Vest from Sail to Bloodsand Beach and finishes that quest. Pumpkin gets the Quest card, but he has not finished the quest. Therefore, the Ranger's effect is not triggered.
Start a quest = Craft the first object.
Finish a quest = Craft the only object or craft the second object.
Conclusion: there is no bug.
You can always ask the game designer or publisher as we seem to be at a disagreement about the rules.
Another evidence is the game balance. As it is now the fighter ranger and wizard seldom get bought because they are underpowered by about 1-2 activations or 2-4 points which if you already have sigils on quests can be guaranteed payout if you put some effort into it. Note that as treasures are not paid out when you get the cards in the end of the game they will not activate then.
I checked this with the designer, and it should really be after you gain treasure.
The only real difference is in situation when you craft 2 item quest and you do not have F/R/W yet, than you hire one of those and somebody else finishes the quest - you dont get a chance to use F/R/W.
As I dont have much time those days and it is not my priority (and the change is not easy fix), I will fix this sometimes in the future, but no guarantee it will be in coming months...
Adam
1) For the rest of the game when crafting the first item on 2-item quests, you get the treasure you deserve earlier (i.e. immediately) rather than having to wait until the other half is complete. This is usually an advantage because you have more time to plan around and use that treasure.
2) If you do the first half of a 2-item quest that is never finished by end of game, you still get an activation.
As for their overall value, I think they're pretty balanced (both in current implementation and in official rules). If you activate even twice (which is usually easy), it was usually an acceptable purchase at the usual coin-to-vp conversion rates. If you activate three or more times (which is often harder, but I've done it several times), it can be a quite good purchase.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
