#14229: "Ramsch game is NOT being played properly"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 請描述顯示問題。 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v79
案件沿革
Also, Final Scoring did not add up correctly for Winning player, a -144 score did not show up.
Offered Grand Hand after everyone passed, then hand played out exactly as Ramsch, including scoring (-66 for taking 66 points instead of +96 for making Grand Hand without 2). This latter point is slightly moot since there should not be a Grand Hand option anyway at this point.
Round 5 Hand 2 error
Offered Skat to each player, doubled loss for each player that didn't pick up the skat. (Awarded -472 instead of -59.) imgur.com/a/rWYtya3
2) Because of the potential for multiple doubles, losing even one Ramsch in a game of 3-5 rounds overwhelms the scoring. Generally SKAT is played for 12 rounds, making this less of an impact.
3) There is an excellent implementation of SKAT on the apple app store by GmbH & Co. KG called "SKAT lite". They have tournament scoring as an option and standard Ramsch as the default. It would be a good reference for the BGA version.
As written, the next update (which is ready to deploy, but cannot be deployed due to overload) will add the standard Ramsch. It is still an option to switch Ramsch off completely.
The tournament rules may be added soon, too.
If you think we should have longer distances as option, these could be added. But usually on BGA people prefer quick games.
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。
