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#14271: "Can we confirm readiness to play when table (in Arena Mode) is populated?"
#14271: "Can we confirm readiness to play when table (in Arena Mode) is populated?"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Arena Mode has you waiting for enough players for the game -- Which standard does also. However, once table is filled, game is expected to begin WITHOUT player confirmation. Standard requires players to confirm readiness to play. Result of Arena game is that if you wait long enough, people do other things and get distracted. If table fills before player returns to game, player can be 'timed out' and a 'quit' is registered. When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful. Especially when multiple quits too close together are so detrimental.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v79
案件沿革
2020年 1月20日 5:20 • LMBfan • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I play Puerto Rico, but I assume others have same functionality.
2020年 1月21日 10:06 • dschingis27 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
What also happens quite regularly in 4P Arena games like 7W, that one participant doesn't do his/her first move for minutes and everyone else on the table knows he's probably not yet in the BGA browser tab. It's just weird to look at the starting game screen for minutes and hoping one player "will make it".
It's totally weird that you gain and lose Arena points if a game hasn't started. I think those situations should only influence Karma points, not Arena points.
It's totally weird that you gain and lose Arena points if a game hasn't started. I think those situations should only influence Karma points, not Arena points.
2020年 5月27日 21:24 • Chocbach • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Also, when I am waiting for a game to start, and I switch to another browser tab, SOMETIMES (about 10% of the time) there's no chime/alert notification when a game is starting. I find out I've "lost" when the game ends, and THEN I hear the "sorry, loser" sound. Very frustrating!
2020年 5月31日 0:35 • Chocbach • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I am having this same problem. I am waiting for an opponent, and I switch to a different tab, or lean over to pet the dog, and next thing I know I've lost the game. This happens to me about 20% of the time; the rest of the time I hear the chime alert.
I think it would be best if you had to accept Arena games the same way as regular games. Or, if a player doesn't take their first turn within 30 seconds, the game ends with no penalty. After that, the regular game clock rules apply.
I think it would be best if you had to accept Arena games the same way as regular games. Or, if a player doesn't take their first turn within 30 seconds, the game ends with no penalty. After that, the regular game clock rules apply.
2020年 6月 4日 20:11 • R o d n e y • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I selected several games to play in "Arena Mode". The games are not very popular games, so it tends to take quite a few minutes, or even hours, before the games begin. While I was waiting for my "Arena Mode" games to begin, I received a notice that I had a turn based game that was available. When leaving the "Play Now" page with automatic real time games pending, you are normally prompted that the games will be cancelled. However, when you leave the page to play in a "Turn Based" game there is no prompt, and the pending games are not cancelled.
Now, it is also not normally a problem to make a move on a "Turn Based" game and to go back to the start page, but in this instance, the person whom I was playing was online, and we began to play the game in real time. The next problem that occurred is that there is no prompt that an automatic "Real Time" game, whether "Arena Mode" or not, has started when you are currently playing another "Turn Based" game. If it is a "Simple Mode" game, then the game just won't start. However, if it is an "Arena Mode" game, it starts automatically, you are removed from the game, and receive penalties for abandoning the game.
I am including a screenshot of the notice that I received of my loss in Battle Sheep as soon as I finished my game of Nine Men's Morris.
imgur.com/a/rlUF4xm
There was no way for me to know that the game began, until I had already lost.
One of the primary goals of "Arena Mode" play is to foster an environment where people play games more freely. I assume that is the reason that players are not allowed to leave "Arena Mode" games. To prevent players from being able to screen their opponents.
There is, however, an alternative. If the names of players were not displayed until the game actually begins, then players would not be able to screen their opponents. This would allow the standard "Real-Time" game features to be implemented in "Arena Mode."
Currently for "Real-Time" games, if a player does not start the game, there is no penalty, because the game does not start. The same could be done in "Arena Mode." If a player does not choose to start their game within a short time period, they could be replaced with the next available player. If there are no other available players, then the table could just wait for the player to return.
Now, the other players also should not be penalized, if this turns out to be an extended period of time, so all players should be prompted to start the game again, if it takes more than a minute for the game to begin.
That is how I feel the problem should be resolved, but in the mean time, if you allow a player to go to a "Turn Based" game from the "Play Now" page with pending "Real Time" games, you would either prompt to cancel the games, or open the "Turn Based" game in a new tab.
FYI:
There is a bug suggestion to bring back the ability to start games on main page for the game. I don't believe this should be done, until this bug is resolved.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=16272
There is also a bug report that suggest not penalizing players who do not start a game. Fixing this bug could resolve this issue.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=14271
There is another bug that suggest anonymous play throughout the entire game.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=14241
Now, it is also not normally a problem to make a move on a "Turn Based" game and to go back to the start page, but in this instance, the person whom I was playing was online, and we began to play the game in real time. The next problem that occurred is that there is no prompt that an automatic "Real Time" game, whether "Arena Mode" or not, has started when you are currently playing another "Turn Based" game. If it is a "Simple Mode" game, then the game just won't start. However, if it is an "Arena Mode" game, it starts automatically, you are removed from the game, and receive penalties for abandoning the game.
I am including a screenshot of the notice that I received of my loss in Battle Sheep as soon as I finished my game of Nine Men's Morris.
imgur.com/a/rlUF4xm
There was no way for me to know that the game began, until I had already lost.
One of the primary goals of "Arena Mode" play is to foster an environment where people play games more freely. I assume that is the reason that players are not allowed to leave "Arena Mode" games. To prevent players from being able to screen their opponents.
There is, however, an alternative. If the names of players were not displayed until the game actually begins, then players would not be able to screen their opponents. This would allow the standard "Real-Time" game features to be implemented in "Arena Mode."
Currently for "Real-Time" games, if a player does not start the game, there is no penalty, because the game does not start. The same could be done in "Arena Mode." If a player does not choose to start their game within a short time period, they could be replaced with the next available player. If there are no other available players, then the table could just wait for the player to return.
Now, the other players also should not be penalized, if this turns out to be an extended period of time, so all players should be prompted to start the game again, if it takes more than a minute for the game to begin.
That is how I feel the problem should be resolved, but in the mean time, if you allow a player to go to a "Turn Based" game from the "Play Now" page with pending "Real Time" games, you would either prompt to cancel the games, or open the "Turn Based" game in a new tab.
FYI:
There is a bug suggestion to bring back the ability to start games on main page for the game. I don't believe this should be done, until this bug is resolved.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=16272
There is also a bug report that suggest not penalizing players who do not start a game. Fixing this bug could resolve this issue.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=14271
There is another bug that suggest anonymous play throughout the entire game.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=14241
2020年 7月28日 22:18 • KongKing123 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
"When you've been waiting for 15 minutes, start looking at another website and just plain forget you were waiting, registering a quit because you just forgot you were waiting on the table is quite painful."
This happened to me yesterday in Solo. There's even a built-in ready check in the game (where you just see your cards but can't play them yet, you need to click a "Let's start" button first), which I obviously didn't confirm, so no move was played whatsoever. And yet, I'm still considered to have "left" the game, even though it never really started: boardgamearena.com/table?table=103802249
Very frustrating since I never leave games (this is my first penalty), so +1 for this suggestion.
This happened to me yesterday in Solo. There's even a built-in ready check in the game (where you just see your cards but can't play them yet, you need to click a "Let's start" button first), which I obviously didn't confirm, so no move was played whatsoever. And yet, I'm still considered to have "left" the game, even though it never really started: boardgamearena.com/table?table=103802249
Very frustrating since I never leave games (this is my first penalty), so +1 for this suggestion.
2020年 8月 8日 14:36 • Paddles • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I've had this happen several times recently - no audio notification that a game was starting, just seeing that a game had started (or even finished) without me being aware of it.
Besides these reports, I've also seen other players time out in exactly the same way when put into a game against me; I now assume they also haven't been notified too, so lately I've been using "agree to abandon" instead of "skip this player" so they don't get a karma penalty. When it can be 5-15 minutes to wait for a game to start, I don't want to stare at the screen waiting and I don't expect others too, I expect the "game start" audio notification.
I'd suggest that if a player was waiting for five minutes before the game was started, then timing out should be treated no karma penalty (like collective abandon) rather than karma penalty (like quit/timeout).
Besides these reports, I've also seen other players time out in exactly the same way when put into a game against me; I now assume they also haven't been notified too, so lately I've been using "agree to abandon" instead of "skip this player" so they don't get a karma penalty. When it can be 5-15 minutes to wait for a game to start, I don't want to stare at the screen waiting and I don't expect others too, I expect the "game start" audio notification.
I'd suggest that if a player was waiting for five minutes before the game was started, then timing out should be treated no karma penalty (like collective abandon) rather than karma penalty (like quit/timeout).
2021年 3月 7日 14:42 • Rei Midas • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
For me there is definitely no chime or audio alert of any kind when the game starts if I switched to another tab in the browser. This isn't fair since sometimes you have to wait 30+ minute to find enough players.
2021年 3月 8日 3:24 • syrope • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I feel like the tab USED to make noise in the background, but it no longer does, and I've accidentally left SO MANY TABLES hanging in the past few weeks. Does anyone know how to change those settings?
2021年 4月12日 4:11 • suny03ua • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I also have noted that some games give me a double loss and them a double win when this happens, which is a completely disproportional penaltyIt doesn't always happen so i am assuming this is not supposed to happen this way. I have opened a separate ticket about this. There is no notification alert if you playing a turn based game while waiting for a realtime one. I would be completely fine with it interrupting me to tell me there is the realtime game.
2021年 5月 5日 0:59 • OutOfHabit • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I can imagine that people might assess whether they want to play based on the opponents, which is kind of against how arena is supposed to be.
If that is why the game starts automatically, this could use a different screen that just shows you which game is starting , not who your opponents would be.
If that is why the game starts automatically, this could use a different screen that just shows you which game is starting , not who your opponents would be.
2021年 5月 6日 7:27 • kiwi bga • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I confirm bug about missing notification when opening a different browser tab.
After waiting for 15-20 min I usually switch to a second browser tab, to read some websites or chat on discord.
The tittle tab stays on "Waiting for 2 players" and I keep an eye on it.. get no notificaiton for a while and when I switch back to current tab, it looks like page stopped updating because I was inactive for X time.. and because of it, I did not get notification, so I lose the points.
After waiting for 15-20 min I usually switch to a second browser tab, to read some websites or chat on discord.
The tittle tab stays on "Waiting for 2 players" and I keep an eye on it.. get no notificaiton for a while and when I switch back to current tab, it looks like page stopped updating because I was inactive for X time.. and because of it, I did not get notification, so I lose the points.
2021年 9月15日 20:23 • bayareascott • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
THIS.
You wait, and wait, and wait to be matched with an opponent. So you start doing other things on your computer. THEN you finally get matched, but even though you have your volume on, you get NO CHIME that the game has started. Then you lose, lose points, get penalized, then get the (considering the circumstances) condescending message that you lose karma because you have ruined someone else's game time.
This is ALL because there is a bug on the site that does not audially notify you the game has started. Why this works on some occasions and not others is very strange.
You wait, and wait, and wait to be matched with an opponent. So you start doing other things on your computer. THEN you finally get matched, but even though you have your volume on, you get NO CHIME that the game has started. Then you lose, lose points, get penalized, then get the (considering the circumstances) condescending message that you lose karma because you have ruined someone else's game time.
This is ALL because there is a bug on the site that does not audially notify you the game has started. Why this works on some occasions and not others is very strange.
2022年 2月19日 14:56 • Tara_SD • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I find it is impossible to Cancel a game that you've requested to start as well. It says you're not waiting for any table of this game and yet the green 'search for table' icon is still active. When you click it in your tables list, it says you're waiting for a live game, but you still can't cancel!
2022年 5月11日 8:52 • kriskeith • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
i have also waited for a long time, forget that it is still searching then miss not only game start, but my first turn. Maybe have a set time limit to wait, if you don't get a table, automatically stop the search then the player will be forced to start the search again. this avoids many games that are cancelled or abandoned, players losing karma, etc and also forces the player to actively wait for the table instead of being distracted while waiting.
2022年 5月14日 13:19 • Livini • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I like R o d n e y's suggestion. It's important that Arena players can't pick who they play with since they could cheat that way, but I definitely recognize the problem LMBfan mentioned. R o d n e y's suggestion would fix both.
2022年 8月 6日 19:49 • fufumdr • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Just wanted to say you can switch a table to turn based when your opponent doesn't show up.
I know, you can't ask your opponent to do it when you're the missing one, but still, I already saved several of my opponents (and have been saved once or twice, I believe) using this, so think of it !
Personally, I rarely use arena because of this kind of quirks (this, the annoying after-game animations, etc), but really wonder why confirmation has been removed there.
I understand they tried to prevent us from picking our opponents, but... just hide their identity when game starts then, right ?
I know, you can't ask your opponent to do it when you're the missing one, but still, I already saved several of my opponents (and have been saved once or twice, I believe) using this, so think of it !
Personally, I rarely use arena because of this kind of quirks (this, the annoying after-game animations, etc), but really wonder why confirmation has been removed there.
I understand they tried to prevent us from picking our opponents, but... just hide their identity when game starts then, right ?
2022年10月 8日 18:54 • Respublik • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Having confirmation with players identifying information blanked [simply a message stating about the start of an arena game in the current white page] would be a preferred short-term solution in my mind.
2022年10月10日 0:56 • arisanana • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Regarding fufumdr's suggestion, I do think it's very nice of you to do that, but oftentimes, it's more like one or two people lose their patience the moment someone takes longer than 1 minute to act and skips the MIA player's turn, causing the entire game to go to null. Besides that, and this is an assumption, but there's definitely people out there who skip not because it's wasting their time waiting (although that plays a major part, perhaps) but because they want the free point boost you get. In multiplayer games (not 1v1s) one person getting skipped or quitting means everyone else is technically "equal winners" so no matter who *would've* won, they still get a share of the pie, even if they were slated to be 4th/5 place.
Unfortunately, with this being the case, that means there's really almost 0 reason for someone to make the table turn-based (which also requires everyone present's vote for it) vs skipping the one person and getting free arena rank up.
I agree with the anonymous playing or name-hiding suggestion — and it'd be great if the start sound bug could be fixed too
Unfortunately, with this being the case, that means there's really almost 0 reason for someone to make the table turn-based (which also requires everyone present's vote for it) vs skipping the one person and getting free arena rank up.
I agree with the anonymous playing or name-hiding suggestion — and it'd be great if the start sound bug could be fixed too
2022年10月12日 7:06 • Vynce • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
This bug has been made even worse recently with multiple instances of games starting and me not being directed to the table, instead still looking at the "waiting for players" page. (The new behavior seems to have come in with the new waiting page, with the bigger game box art).
I have dozens times been waiting for a game, had no progress bar, hit cancel, and gotten an error message that I was not waiting for a table of this game. Then i hit the (white, buggy) "cancel" button again and start waiting for a table. Fine.
Except that a few times, when i've done that, i've gotten en error message saying i was already at a table of that game, and did i want to go to it? Obviously, yes, OK, fine.
Except that twice now i have gotten a "you didn't finish this game" karma hit over what I presume is the same situation, only i didn't happen o get impatient and hit cancel and so didn't know i was in said game.
You should really be using some technology to detect that the player is actually at the table before penalizing them for not playing.
I have dozens times been waiting for a game, had no progress bar, hit cancel, and gotten an error message that I was not waiting for a table of this game. Then i hit the (white, buggy) "cancel" button again and start waiting for a table. Fine.
Except that a few times, when i've done that, i've gotten en error message saying i was already at a table of that game, and did i want to go to it? Obviously, yes, OK, fine.
Except that twice now i have gotten a "you didn't finish this game" karma hit over what I presume is the same situation, only i didn't happen o get impatient and hit cancel and so didn't know i was in said game.
You should really be using some technology to detect that the player is actually at the table before penalizing them for not playing.
2022年10月20日 12:43 • Zero_1627 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
a warning though - need to confirm readiness would be very easy to abuse. Just do not cofirm if You dont like opponents matched... this is not acceptable in Arena game. So mandatory participation once matched is IMO necessary.
2022年10月20日 23:47 • Mathew5000 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
@Zero_1627: see the suggestion above by R o d n e y which addresses your concern.
There are a lot of valid comments and good suggestions in this thread, I hope the admins of this site take note.
There are a lot of valid comments and good suggestions in this thread, I hope the admins of this site take note.
2022年12月29日 2:15 • Timmy222 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
One other idea to solve the issue of people not being there at the beginning of an Arena game:
is it possible to take the alerts that happen when there are only 20 seconds left on the clock, and use them at the beginning of the game if there has been no action?
It happens frequently at the beginning of a game where someone sits idle for 2-4 minutes, and then when the 20 second warning comes up they switch from their other tab and play. Probably happens a couple times a week (I've also done that unfortunately).
The problem is that when you have the BGA tab in the background, it's easy to miss the initial alert that a game is starting.
is it possible to take the alerts that happen when there are only 20 seconds left on the clock, and use them at the beginning of the game if there has been no action?
It happens frequently at the beginning of a game where someone sits idle for 2-4 minutes, and then when the 20 second warning comes up they switch from their other tab and play. Probably happens a couple times a week (I've also done that unfortunately).
The problem is that when you have the BGA tab in the background, it's easy to miss the initial alert that a game is starting.
2022年12月30日 5:05 • twistoffate1 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Agreed, this is very frustrating. I have literally waited hours to play a game and then gotten expelled because I got distracted or (heaven forbid) didn't want to take my device to the bathroom.
Related problem: Why is expel the only option displayed atop the page? Why not display "Go turn-based" and "Abandon" also, instead of only the harshest option? It causes unnecessary feuds among the players, many of whom do not even realize the other two are options.
Related problem: Why is expel the only option displayed atop the page? Why not display "Go turn-based" and "Abandon" also, instead of only the harshest option? It causes unnecessary feuds among the players, many of whom do not even realize the other two are options.
2023年 1月 3日 16:36 • Soolina • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
problem is people are going to dismiss the game if they think players in the game wont suit their needs (like ELO or arena rank too low)
2023年 2月 6日 15:20 • 44BZH • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I do agree with "Also, when I am waiting for a game to start, and I switch to another browser tab, SOMETIMES (about 10% of the time) there's no chime/alert notification when a game is starting. I find out I've "lost" when the game ends, and THEN I hear the "sorry, loser" sound. Very frustrating!"
2023年 2月21日 4:58 • DrRockenheimer • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Maybe this is why waiting for Arena games can take so long, because players get fed up with these penalties and stop playing Arena in less popular games!?
If I leave my screen up for a long time without doing anything, eventually it asks me if I'm still there. Similarly, at a bare minimum, in Arena mode, after a few minutes of waiting, before starting a game, it should ask if I'm still there and ready for Arena! ***No need to share information about the opponents before the "are you there?", that's not a reasonable excuse for not fixing this***. And give a reasonable amount of time to respond to the "are you there?" commensurate with how long the wait was for the game in the first place! (This also would be a good catch-all for avoiding harsh penalties because chimes were not working or there were glitches with games not actually opening automatically, which I have experienced.)
If I leave my screen up for a long time without doing anything, eventually it asks me if I'm still there. Similarly, at a bare minimum, in Arena mode, after a few minutes of waiting, before starting a game, it should ask if I'm still there and ready for Arena! ***No need to share information about the opponents before the "are you there?", that's not a reasonable excuse for not fixing this***. And give a reasonable amount of time to respond to the "are you there?" commensurate with how long the wait was for the game in the first place! (This also would be a good catch-all for avoiding harsh penalties because chimes were not working or there were glitches with games not actually opening automatically, which I have experienced.)
2023年 2月24日 17:37 • KenFin1 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I got kicked today from a game I didn't even know had started. Why does it allow kicking at 0% played? It should just be an abort option at this stage if a player hasn't actively done anything. Either that or it needs manual acceptance to start a game as proposed here. Sadly i see this bug report was started several years ago so it doesn't seem like BGA have done much about it. Does anyone know if this is being progressed at all?
2023年 3月21日 13:12 • KenFin1 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
20 minute wait for a game of next station. No notification. No chat. no sound. Nothing. Expelled notice, lose 20 karma and loads of arena points. WTF is going on with this? It's like it times out of notifying you about the game but doesn't time out of searching for opponents.
BGA this report has been open for more than 2 years and is still only yellow? Can anyone explain if the BGA devs are still active? Are they doing anything? Are we just whistling into the wind on these reports?
BGA this report has been open for more than 2 years and is still only yellow? Can anyone explain if the BGA devs are still active? Are they doing anything? Are we just whistling into the wind on these reports?
2023年 4月13日 21:37 • 0x30fb220030fb • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Experienced this issue with Race for the Galaxy yesterday - the wait for Arena was taking several minutes, so I switched to another tab, expecting to be notified when my game was ready. The expected audio notification did not play, and I eventually received an abandon for a game I did not even realize was happening.
Soolina commented "problem is people are going to dismiss the game if they think players in the game wont suit their needs (like ELO or arena rank too low)" -- a better solution to this issue would be to hide the relevant information (player name, rank, etc.) prior to game start rather than skipping the ready up prompt as is currently done.
Soolina commented "problem is people are going to dismiss the game if they think players in the game wont suit their needs (like ELO or arena rank too low)" -- a better solution to this issue would be to hide the relevant information (player name, rank, etc.) prior to game start rather than skipping the ready up prompt as is currently done.
2023年 4月30日 18:26 • Gernot • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I like the idea of a "confirm that you are still there" button for arena games, maybe only if you've been waiting for more than a minute. If you don't show who your opponents would be, then there's no risk of "screening" out opponents you don't think you can win against, or ones that wouldn't give you any points if you won against them.
2023年 5月 4日 20:44 • ermocito • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
When another player gets distracted by the long wait to start a game, you have to wait awhile before the system boots them and penalizes them. This hurts them (nearly every penalty I've had at BGA was caused by this) - but it also hurts their opponents (who should be back in the queue without having to watch their clock count down.
Fixing this problem - even if you cannot see ANYTHING ABOUT the opponent names - would be the absolute #1 fix I would recommend across BGA. I am seriously considering stopping with Arena solely due to this problem.
Fixing this problem - even if you cannot see ANYTHING ABOUT the opponent names - would be the absolute #1 fix I would recommend across BGA. I am seriously considering stopping with Arena solely due to this problem.
2023年 7月10日 6:14 • bluegatorgamer • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Sometimes I'm waiting for more than 20 mins and bam I'm in a game, resulting in a penalty
2023年 8月31日 2:38 • GamesOnTheBrain • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
So tired to this. I had a perfect reputation for a good nine months before venturing into the arena. Now, like so many others, I enter a queue, wait forever, never hear a chime despite having the BGA sound at max, and then get booted and penalized.
PLEASE add a confirm button for starting games in arena mode. If you're concerned about people leaving because of the opponent's name or elo, just remove it them from the display.
PLEASE add a confirm button for starting games in arena mode. If you're concerned about people leaving because of the opponent's name or elo, just remove it them from the display.
2023年10月16日 3:51 • Gernot • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I can only second what everyone else here has already said: Please implement a confirmation screen!
I think the reason there is no confirmation screen in arena mode is that you don't want players to cancel inconvenient matches. This could be avoided simply by having a confirmation screen that does not reveal the other players' names and rank.
I think the reason there is no confirmation screen in arena mode is that you don't want players to cancel inconvenient matches. This could be avoided simply by having a confirmation screen that does not reveal the other players' names and rank.
2023年10月25日 11:48 • BattleBott • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Personally, I enjoy the fact that they don't have a confirm button while engaging in Arena. It's the only way I can win. People love BGA and the waiting game.
2023年11月 2日 10:52 • ArmagedOFF • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I'm really tired with this. The number of arena scores and karma I've lost because of this became really big. I'm fighting for the 1st place in few games and I love real-time games. But because of this issue now I have to play turn-based arena games only. Very disappointed...
2023年11月 7日 8:29 • SadPuffin • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
For 1v1 games, you should be able to decline an opponent or at least be allowed to forfeit immediately. I keep getting paired with players who are massively better than me and I know before the game even starts that it is going to be a miserable experience. Why do I have to wait until the game is 50% complete to forfeit? Sometimes I just quit on turn 10 and take the penalty to my rep, because it's truly a miserable experience getting creamed for 15 minutes.
2023年12月11日 15:23 • LesserJester • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I was playing a turnbased game because i got a message saying i needed to take my turn. i come out of that and get a "you've been expelled" message from a SpaceBase game I wasn't even aware had started. Why is the site not warning me i have a realtime game starting. The whole point of turnbased is that i can leave it. So where is the banner/popup/ whatever to tell me a new game has gone live? All of this is easily avoided if the site would just implement this suggestion to confirm arena starts.
2023年12月27日 13:39 • ponyashvonyash • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Still strongly desired feature: been top20 arena, got urgent call while just "Searching for opponents", returned a few moments ago - you're expelled -35 ELO and 120 place in the chart - perfect nah
2024年 1月 4日 11:57 • LesserJester • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
it just happened to me again. I'm told I need to play a turnbased game, while doing that it launches an arena match, doesn't tell me and I get expelled before I get out of the turnbased game. This is rubbish BGA. Please sort this out.
2024年 1月18日 13:31 • LesserJester • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Now I'm getting expelled from an Arena Turnbased game that the site starts when I'm offline. I played my moves as soon as I logged in this morning but the other player expelled me on -1hour despite me having taken my moves and us both being online. This is ridiculous and easily prevented with an accept action.
The TB timer should not count down until both players have logged in and been active on the site after the game table has been made.
The TB timer should not count down until both players have logged in and been active on the site after the game table has been made.
2024年 1月22日 22:26 • bluegatorgamer • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
We already have this feature in in the simple game mode. Why not just add it to Arena?
2024年 1月31日 15:36 • LesserJester • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Why can't they do something about this? We get popup messages in game logs when friends go online/offline, why don't we get told when a game is starting and we're in a Turnbased game? I'#ve just got expelled from a real time game I didn't know had begun despite being online and on the site. How am I supposed to know my 15+minute wait is finally over?
2024年 4月18日 20:55 • Tiger58 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Kinda embarassing this hasn't been responded to after four years of it being right
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