#158400: "Game progression start at 50% and ends at 65%, but should start at 0% and end at 100%"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 請描述顯示問題。 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v18.3
案件沿革
1. At game start, progression should be 0%.
2. The wolfes can only move forward. That limit each wolf to a maximum of 7 moves. The wolf player has 4 pawns, so they can move not more than 28 times,
3. The sheep can move forward and backward. The does not limit the number of moves. But as both players move one after the other, the sheep player can not have more turns that the wolf player (plus 1 move, if the sheep player is the starting player). So, there could not be more than 57 moves in a single game. => Each turn should increase the progress by at least 1.75 (which is 1/57).
4. At the end of the game, the progress should be set to 100%. This should be done when the winner is announced. Note, that the game announces the winner, as soon as it is obvious that the sheep can not be blocked any more, even so the official win condition has not been met.
That would be a simple calculation of progression. It would cause a big step for the last turn of the game, but it at least takes into account how many tuns are possible if both players behave as if they need to do as much moves as possible. (Not sure, if you could detect situations, where black gets stuck and cannot move all 4 black pawns to the last line of the board.)
1. The first version of the game was using a 0% progress at start, but I was asked to change to 50% at start like other BGA abstract games (chess or something like that) in order to let players CONCEDE as fast as possible.
(See ticket #101827 : boardgamearena.com/bug?id=101827.)
2+3. Yes it is used to compute the progress from 50% to 100%
4. To analyze
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- 如果您有此錯誤的螢幕截圖（這是個好習慣），您可以使用您選擇的圖片託管服務（例如snipboard.io）上傳它，然後將連結複製/貼上到這裡。
