#160281: "Auto give-up riddle for players running out of time (maybe as an option)"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I played a few public games with random people, and when someone doesn't manage to find a riddle's solution, they can just stall the game unless we kick them.
Please, just make it so players reaching the allowed time limit on a riddle automatically give-up on it. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
Yoann
In the linked table, a player stalled indefinitely (about 4 minutes which is the maximum time limit of the table) and was eventually kicked out, nullifying the whole result.
In real time I can set a different timeout?
Yoann
But many of us just don't want to kick people. It feels a bit butal, and takes 20+ seconds.
Game enforcing the rules would fluidify this and remove unneeded tense.
Of course, the player just wanted to find the answer to the riddle, which makes sense... BUT the problem is we ALL had to wait for them.
After 30+ seconds of overtime, someone finally clicked the kick button.
Note they still had the option to skip riddle during 20 seconds before being kicked, but maybe they didn't even know, or tried to click it in the last seconds...
It's also quite common for someone to have some short IRL urgency needing a few minutes of AFK (phone call, children management...)
Anyway, kicking doesn't feel cool AND screws the whole game's results, for everyone.
Have a special time limit in real time ?
In extreme mode it's normal to spent more than 5 minutes to solve some puzzles.
And in easy mode 1 minute is the maximim.
How to manage this with SIMPLE tules?
Yoann
Yoann
This may need a separate timer so you have full control over it, but I'm not sure.
(Game's here, but is coop and needs 2 players : boardgamearena.com/gamepanel?game=nowboarding)
I suspect SkyTeam does the same using the regular timer, but would have to double check first.
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In realtime, riddles should probably also auto-start after maybe 30 seconds max, since waiting time is just here to let you breathe between 2 riddles.
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Speaking of "simple rules", I don't see any need for something fancy.
Just keep in line with BGA's "slow/normal/fast" pace for timers.
This ticket is about enforcing the respect of timers, not asking more or less time (only stats or community could tell us about the "right" durations for every level of riddle, which may even vary per "universe")
I plan to add an auto giveup system when timers runs out.
But only if the player launches the game. If he even not launch the game he will be expelled as usual..
Yoann
The backend can read this timer setting and imo this is more reliable than reading from the frontend which can be manipulated easily:
en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Main_game_logic:_Game.php#BGA_predefined_globals
Be able to read the current time left of a player when he is currently solving a puzzle and send a give up action when the timer runs out.
I think my only way is to read the html.
Yoann
Only if he already laucnh the puzzle.
Yoann
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
