#160966: "Equal turns option doesn't count all goals completed"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
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• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(目前遊戲指示是什麼)
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
-
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v133
案件沿革
I had proposed to use the equal turns option for this season’s Arena format. It garnered the most votes, but wasn’t allowed due to its beta status. Therefore, please ensure to change the status once the option is working as intended.
I’m sure most competitive players would appreciate a level playing field.
I checked the Log of that Game boardgamearena.com/table?table=657747195
There you was the start player and your opponent got the last turn. So everyone had an equal amount.
I wanted to clarify that the suggestion I made above is essentially just applying a tiebreaker to any scenario where it isn't appropriate for players share a win.
Maybe Uwe Rosenberg himself should weigh in on this? Playing Framework with equal turns introduces new issues that weren't relevant with the original game design.
As the non-starting player, I had an extra turn, and proceeded to cover all 22 goals, but my opponent won the tiebreaker because they could have covered one more goal on their turn.
Thanks vurtan! :D
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號/步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題?
- 問題是否發生了好幾次?每次都發生?時好時壞?
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
