#165796: "Sky towers shouldn't be able to connect the New world with the great cloud."
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v135
案件沿革
Thanks for your report!
I'm not familiar with any rule in the IN THE SKY manual which prohibits Sky Towers from connecting the Great Cloud and the New World. There's no placement rule which forbids Sky Towers being placed in the Great Cloud. The rules say "you can place your Buildings on either the Great Cloud board or the New World board - subject to meeting the Building Requirements" and there are no Building Requirements against Sky Towers being placed in the Great Cloud.
The only specific mention of Sky Towers in the IN THE SKY rules is in reference to the Rainbow tokens: "Each pair of tokens connects two of your Territories to difference Fiefs, as if they were adjacent (in the same way as the Sky Towers in the base game)". So here the Sky Towers are used as a quick way of explaining how the Rainbow tokens work but (in case there is a misunderstanding) the "in the base game" is not implying a new limitation on the Sky Towers. If that were the intent, not only with the limitation have been made explicitly but the wording would have referred to "on the New World board" and not "in the base game".
The Rainbows rules section DOES specify at one point that "it can only be placed on the New World board" but that is referring to the second Rainbow token (the Rainbow MUST connect the fixed Great Cloud territory with a territory on the New World board) and is not referring to Sky Towers at all (if it was, then the following rule about being able to move it during each Construction phase would also apply to Sky Towers, which I'm sure you'd agree, it doesn't!)
If you believe that I have missed something then I'd be very keen to hear the specific rule that you're referring to, but I believe this is most likely a rule misunderstanding. Sky Towers are important to the expansion as the design of In The Sky is all about the importance of connecting all of the rich Fiefs in the Great Cloud to the New World. If Sky Towers were prevented from doing that, it would heavily limit the usefulness of the additional board!
Cheers,
BARONFRASER
The full thread is at boardgamegeek.com/thread/2689192/doubt-about-sky-towers-in-expansion but specifically from Richard:
"The intent was that you should be able to use sky towers on the sky board, as if it were the main board."
I do acknowledge that this quote doesn't explicitly refer to joining Territories from both boards, but he is answering a question that explicitly DOES raise that question and his response expresses no issue with it.
Cheers,
BARONFRASER
I also prefer not allowing placing the towers across the maps because the current rules can make the rainbow tokens useless, since they provide less mobility.
Thanks for the suggestion, but you'd need to make a very strong case for spending development time on implementing a house rule that - at face value - appears to break the game. The Great Cloud is heavily gimped if you can't connect it to the New World board. I'm not sure what the advantage is for removing from the game 3/5 of the opportunities to make that connection.
Particularly in 3+ player games it would lock all but 2 players out from the points to be made from combining the high wealth opportunity that the Great Cloud offers with the high City Towers opportunity that can only be achieved on the New World.
Cheers,
BARONFRASER
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