#167071: "Colonoies: Order of operations wrong when trading on Pluto."
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
413
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
413
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
413
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
413
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
413
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
413
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
案件沿革
Opponent first drew his trade bonus (move 412). Not sure if they clicked on that option or Whatever button.
screenshot: imgur.com/a/jTWHUUn
The same happened to me at table 663278761. Opponenent said he clicked on Draw cards (trade bonus) and after he drew them, the selection automatically jumped to me.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=663278761
Quite annoying TBH.
I.e. main player chose order of operation which also chooses when other player draw. But all discards of other plalyer are queue up at the end of that player action
Also I made colony bonus non optional (i.e. draw->discard is not optional you have to take it)
With 2 colonies on Pluto, I now get both of my draws before my discards. This is wrong. I must draw first, discard after, then draw again and discard after. I may not see the 2nd card before deciding what to discard. This makes multiple Pluto colonies even stronger.
Another thing, didn't experience pluto trading as active player yet, but as non-active yes, in two games and it is now very confusing. Basically you come to game where there is your turn. And you are asked to discard a card. You got a card automatically, but you are not really notified about that (except the log of course), so you might not notice a new card and wonder why you should just discard.
What is even worse, when you come to game where there is your turn, you automatically expect you are going to play a card. So we are getting into very dangerous situation, where people think they are playing a card, but in fact you are discarding it! I know it is written on the top what action you are doing, but since you didn't trigger it in any way (unlike Mars University), then it is very tricky and it will cause a lot of troubles, especially in turn based games.
For any player who received a new card during someone else's Pluto trade - a popup button that says, "you received a new card from Pluto. Confirm and then discard one card" that must actually be clicked before the discard can be selected?
Then I have to hit the button (no "skip" shenanigans as before) and then I draw and must immediately discard.
This removes all the problems.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
