#169514: "Provide players with the option to disable scoring animations"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
In Carcassonne, scoring animations occur after a player completes features during their turn. In other words, the animations occur at the beginning of the following player’s turn. This has two consequences that can severely impact tournament games that use fixed time (rather than incremental) clocks: The following player can’t place a tile or meeple until the animations have finished, and their time-remaining clocks don’t reflect the fact that their time is being consumed while the animations are running. Animations could potentially make it impossible for a player to take their last turn without running out of time because even refreshing the game consumes valuable time.
Players can refresh (F5) the game to skip the remaining animations and re-synch the active player’s clock to be consistent with the BGA server’s time. Unfortunately, refreshing a game also takes up time and the game is not visible while the table is refreshing.
Additional details:
The “time remaining clocks” of players and spectators do not count down while animations are occurring. This can be seen in the two streaming video excerpts showing an 8 second delay and 17 second delay (links pasted below). Although the active player’s clocks resume counting down once the animations have finished, they start with the time remaining that the player had before their turn started, rather than with the correct time remaining that also reflects the time it took for the animations to run. Because of this, even under the best connection circumstances, players and spectators see a clock that suggests that the active player has more time remaining than they actually have. Although the active player’s time remaining is “reset” to be consistent with the BGA server’s time once they’ve finished their turn, the time discrepancy persists throughout their turn, making it possible for them to run out of time without realizing it. The two video clips above show that clock discrepancies due to animations can be as much as 17 seconds.
Although this phenomena is only likely to critically impact a player on their last turn (or two) of a fixed-time tournament game, it is not uncommon for players in the World Team Carcassonne Online Championship (WTCOC) to finish games with less than 3 seconds remaining (e.g. 8 out of 205 games played in the first 3 weeks of WTCOC 2025, including 3 players that exceeded the time limit and lost their game as a result).
8 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxa58R5JPxlensRsux1AWFtNnmj_h38GVm
17 second delay: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSoBfYPO4q_W3AFiMh3sxiDCX5ClGa7ZU • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v136
案件沿革
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=169517
But even if that can be fixed, some might prefer to simply turn off the animations. Players can already disable animations in the games Lost Ruins of Arnak and Terraforming Mars.
Although this isn't a big problem under normal BGA circumstances (Waiwai1202 couldn't have been expelled by their opponent in this case), this particular tournament had an additional rule that makes exceeding the time limit an automatic loss.
video excerpt: www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxyY_3lb3hdvvdsVnVrgD-JGypHfcNlBIC
table: boardgamearena.com/table?table=668296048
In my game at table #boardgamearena.com/table?table=674822456 the following happened:
I had 8 seconds left after finishing my penultimate move. Then I received a CCRR as my last tile. There was a spot to claim a 7 point road which was the most valuable feature to claim. So I positioned my cursor above it getting ready to quickly place my tile and meeple within these 8 seconds as soon as my opponent places his penultimate tile. But with that tile he finished a 4 point city and at that moment I realized that I won't have 8 seconds because I would lose at least 4 seconds due to the animation!
Unfortunately for me, I had to place the meeple on the road on the CCRR tile, which is not that easy to do in such a short time (positioning the cursor right above that small road piece is difficult). Therefore I made a sudden (and fatal) decision not to place the meeple on the road, but on the city which is a bit easier task (because it's a larger feature): it was worth only 4 points but at least I wouldn't lose by time. (I have achieved this: after my move I still had 1 second left on my clock.)
But this allowed my opponent to take the road, which was now worth 8 points, and with that he won the game by 1 point. This would not have happened without the time-consuming animation.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
