#180949: "Better wording than "All players can vote to kick players out of time""
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
A better wording to match the implementation would be "Any player can kick players out of time".
There is no voting; and the action can be taken by _any_ player (it doesn't require _all_ players)
In an area which can already cause bad feelings between players, this unclear wording sometimes makes this bad feeling worse! • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v139
案件沿革
• All players can vote to kick players out of time.
• Players can't be skipped during games.
• Les joueurs peuvent voter pour expulser un joueur au temps de réflexion dépassé.
• Le tour des joueurs ne peut pas être passé pendant les parties.
• Alle Spieler können abstimmen, Spieler mit abgelaufener Bedenkzeit auszuschließen.
• Spieler können während der Spiele nicht übersprungen werden.
Anybody would assume that if the top option is selected, a player would only be expelled from a game after a vote of the other players, meeting a certain threshold, as proposed in the following suggestions:
• boardgamearena.com/bug?id=107708
• boardgamearena.com/bug?id=35239
But in fact, the first option ("All players can vote to kick players out of time"), which is the default, just results in *any* player being able to unilaterally expel a player who is out of time. There is never any voting! This was extensively discussed in the following thread:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43095
(Also, in the English version the word "expel" should be used instead of "skip". People new to BGA might not realize at first that the terminology "skip a player" means to remove them from the game.)
The wording of the two options ought to be changed to:
• Any player can expel a player who is out of time.
• Players can't be expelled during games.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
