#19689: "Manual scoring + muggins variant (failing at scoring benefits the opponent)"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v83
案件沿革
I have been tossing around the idea of muggings,
There are a couple of issues I can't get around
First it would slow down the game as each player would have to wait for the count, and an extra "turn" in turn based games, but if both players agree to this style it is no big issue.
Another is the UI
BGA GuideLines state
II-2 Use left clic only● The whole game should be playable with only simple left button mouse clicks.● Context menus should not be used.●Dragndrop should be avoided (if you want to use it anyway, you should make a click basedalternative available).● Mouse icon must change on cliquable elements (« cursor:pointer » CSS property)..
So I would have to display a grid of 29 buttons (0-29) or of 3 buttons +/-/OK and the user would have to click up to 29 times (if they are lucky)
The final hurdle is the muggins themselves,
I would have to display this interface to both players all the time, if I only give the opponent an opportunity to correct the count when a miscount is done then that would tip the player off that something was miscounted.
Then how would each situation be handled
Player A | Player B
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correct | correct -- this is easy
correct | higher -- should there be a penalty*
correct | lower -- **
lower | lower than Player A
lower | higher than Player A
higher | lower than Player A
higher | higher than Player A
*from section 10.4a of the American Cribbage College rule book
If the judges determine that the play
was not a muggins, the opponent will be awarded
the points taken as a penalty.
** 10.4a
If the true amount
of underpegging is determined to be other than
the amount originally claimed, the caller is entitled only to the lesser of the claimed or true
amounts. In no case shall the amount of points
awarded for muggins exceed the actual number
of holes that could have been pegged had the
scoring been correctly done.
www.cribbage.org/NewSite/rules/ACCRuleBook2016.pdf
I am open to any suggestions, especially variants that will give BGA players more ways to play, I just don't know how to overcome these hurdles. Please feel free to offer more feedback
4 - 5 - 5 - 6
You'd click
5 - 5 - "score" : +2 pair
4 - 5 - 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
just selecting and clicking "score" the way you select and put in the crib.
have "score" and "done" in the action bar.
A "simplistic" muggins would be to just _give_ to the opponent anything they missed, without making her do anything!
Otherwise you could then just give them same UI to the opponent who would just click "done" or click the missing scoring things.
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
