#20752: "Cue bid should not be possible unless you hold the card that would be called"
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Check the hands at move 256 and see whether the player who made the cue bid actually had the 18.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Check the hands at move 256 and see whether the player who made the cue bid actually had the 18.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Check the hands at move 256 and see whether the player who made the cue bid actually had the 18.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Check the hands at move 256 and see whether the player who made the cue bid actually had the 18.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Check the hands at move 256 and see whether the player who made the cue bid actually had the 18.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Check the hands at move 256 and see whether the player who made the cue bid actually had the 18.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
At move 256, a player made an inadvertent cue bid, inviting the 18 to be called. No one overbid, and he got the bid. But he said he did not have the card he had (accidentally) invited to be called. We thought a player was required to have the card they were inviting another bidder to call.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Firefox Quantum 67.0
案件沿革
(a) as first bidder you can bid whatever you like, but if someone else accepts the presumed invitation, you must bid on to indicate that it wasn't actually an invitation
(b) if you don't hold the required card for an invitation, you must bid 3, but nobody else bids, you are then allowed to take fewer than 3 if you wish
(c) if you don't hold the required card for an invitation, you must bid 3, and if nobody else bids you must take 3
The last variant is somewhat marginal, the other two are widespread. My implementation uses (a) on the basis that in (b) we make life easier for the player with a strong hand. Force them to make a decision instead: "do I want to risk getting too many trumps, discarding some, and then winning a game of little value OR getting even fewer cards than I'd like and possibly struggling in a higher value game?"
BTW there are (quite wordy) tooltips provided for bidding button explaining what exactly each bid means. If a bid isn't legal then its button won't show up - anything you do see is legal to say. Admitedly the tooltips won't help you if you're using a touchscreen.
(Also, if you're doing very little cue-bidding, you're doing the right thing. That's meant for strong hands where the two high honours have a good chance of winning a game of one or solo with at least trull, even against the pagat and the XX. Under 6 trumps you shouldn't even consider a cue bid, but I'm not sure I've done it more than once or twice even with 6.)
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
