#21686: "Selector for number of meeples is misleading; replace with different selector widget"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(目前遊戲指示是什麼)
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Safari v11.1
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