#23292: "Price Protection should be once per Decade and optional"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 請描述顯示問題。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v84
案件沿革
And it shouldn't work for the whole decade, as that is too powerful
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/32703243#32703243
In terms of it being optional rather than mandatory, I'm trying to think of a case where I would NOT want to have my stock price protected from dropping. If there are legitimate cases where that would be of possible benefit, then it's worth pursuing that with the game designer, to see what he thinks. Otherwise it seems like it would needlessly delay the game if a player had to be prompted every time to see if they wanted to use it (especially since it can be used multiple times per decade)
www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/2493015/capital-asset-price-protection
Did you even read the link you posted? When I go there I see the designer has edited it to reflect the current version of the rules:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/32703243#32703243
also see the thread I posted:
www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/2493015/capital-asset-price-protection
IF you tool tip over the asset in BGA, you can see BGA is using the current version of the rules. this is a bug and the designer agrees
Hopefully you also saw that I asked the designer about whether you can choose when to use this asset, and he replied that you do get to choose.
Now, I understand this has changed with the 2nd edition, but it wouldn't be easy to change with the implementation because it means multiple actions can be interrupted and switch to the player holding price protection because they now have a decision to make. This changes the flow of the game significantly, and in asynchronous games, this also has a big impact.
Just so you know, I have no intention of changing this in the short term because of those reasons. I'll leave it open for visibility.
Good idea, but knowing this, a player would use this knowledge to their advantage, making this capital asset go from amazing, to complete shit.
imgur.com/a/kvZYdhh
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/35690787#35690787
I believe the BGA implementation is in accordance with this new/clarified rule.
Ooops, sorry! I meant that the BGA implementation is in accordance with the v1 rules.
Note the inconsistence between the behaviour (v1) and the tip text when hovering over the capital asset: the latter reflects the v2 rules!
The v2 rules have changed the ability of the capital asset, and the BGA implementation has thus become wrong.
Clarification by Mr Chandler (author) here: boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/35690787#35690787
He says: "In the Second Edition, this rule has changed to be a "ONCE PER DECADE" ability. It is no longer a passive ability."
Do not forget to grey out the capital asset once used.
Thank you for your time!
To follow the rules, it should protect only once (not implemented)
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