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#23742: "3 Player variant should not be forced on people"
#23742: "3 Player variant should not be forced on people"
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
It seems like when playing a 3 player game, the game is only using 3 suits and 3 trump. 1) This is not standard. 2) There's another variant for 3 that should be considered. that involves making the suits shorter by 2 cards (1-7) and I'm not sure about # of Trump. This variant requires a minor adjustment to a few missions, since there are no 9s in the deck.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
2020年10月10日 5:34 • jhodgdon • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
The main rules are, without this variant:
Shuffle the 40 large playing cards and distribute them face down and equally to all crew members. If there are three of you playing, one person will get one more card than the rest. After the last trick, the card that is left remains unplayed.
Shuffle the 40 large playing cards and distribute them face down and equally to all crew members. If there are three of you playing, one person will get one more card than the rest. After the last trick, the card that is left remains unplayed.
2020年10月14日 19:57 • dcorbin • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I have learn recently that this "variant' is standard in the latest rule book. But I still think players should be allowed to choose the original rules for 3 players.
2020年10月14日 20:51 • ufm • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
It is not 'Standard', but a 'Challenge for Three'. p21 says: 'If you want a greater challenge for three players, try the following variant:'
The main rules are definitely without this variant. As an option for challengers this is fine, but the variant should not be forced.
The main rules are definitely without this variant. As an option for challengers this is fine, but the variant should not be forced.
2020年10月17日 20:44 • radicarian • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
At the very least, it should clear in the game help that this is how 3 players is implemented.
2020年11月22日 1:01 • Scott A Melzer • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I'm very frustrated in that I feel if I have only three players you can't play this game. The way it stands on BGA, if you have three players you are playing a much harder version. PLEASE fix this and make this an option, not the default.
2020年11月26日 17:22 • CanuckEddie • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
No I think what we have now should be the default. It's a much better game this way, and much more closely resembles the feel of the 4 and 5 player game. I don't agree its harder, at least not meaningfully.
I do agree that it *is* a variant, and the option to "go either way" should be present. But the current 3p is a better default.
I do agree that it *is* a variant, and the option to "go either way" should be present. But the current 3p is a better default.
2020年12月18日 23:43 • patrober • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I was confused when playing this as 3 players, as it didnt follow the way we had played in real life, or even as the way the rules are described on the page - didnt realise it was implemented differently till after a few games when we realised our assumptions about cards still in play was incorrect leading to incorrect decisions being made.
I would like it to be offered as an option for either as it is, or the full pack dealt out if that is possible. If not, then correct the rules description on the page to reflect what is implemented.
Having said that, I quite liked this variant!
I would like it to be offered as an option for either as it is, or the full pack dealt out if that is possible. If not, then correct the rules description on the page to reflect what is implemented.
Having said that, I quite liked this variant!
2021年 1月 2日 2:30 • penguinist22 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Three players should have option of playing with either three suits or four.
2021年 1月 7日 23:54 • Supergravity • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Addressing Melzer's comment: I'v been having a campaign with a 3-person crew where the other two had no experience before the first mission. We are so far up to mission 40 with about 58 attempts. While this is not a stellar ratio, it certainly does not appear the game is so difficult that "you can't play" it.
2021年 1月 8日 1:12 • ufm • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Indeed 'Challenge for Three' variant is far from 'unplayable', but it is significantly harder than standard 4p games. Probably a little bit easier than 5p, but still.
2021年 1月25日 22:12 • akerbos • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I think the main game rules should be the default. While it's nice to be able to _choose_ a variant, it should certainly not be the only choice.
That said, I find the three-suite variant to be both challenging and frustrating; you have to concentrate and count along, but also the odds of getting an impossible distribution seem high.
I will also say that we bunked our first few missions in the three-player game because we kept waiting to be able to throw away on green, but of course green never appeared. It wasn't at all clear to us what was going on; I had to look up this ticket to realize the variant even existed and was intentionally pre-selected. Not a good experience.
That said, I find the three-suite variant to be both challenging and frustrating; you have to concentrate and count along, but also the odds of getting an impossible distribution seem high.
I will also say that we bunked our first few missions in the three-player game because we kept waiting to be able to throw away on green, but of course green never appeared. It wasn't at all clear to us what was going on; I had to look up this ticket to realize the variant even existed and was intentionally pre-selected. Not a good experience.
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