#29010: "Allow turn-based tournament to use "+X hours per turn" game speeds"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
If players could be matched by time zone initially, I think that would go a long way towards fair tournament play.
It's not a good representation of my attention to the game, even if I am playing well. I didn't understand this about tournament play and will be unlikely to join tournaments in the future. It's too bad this hasn't been fixed yet.
Someone who runs out of time should still get kicked from the game.
Let's take an example. You play 2 turns per day on average, and you enter a game that lasts about 20 moves per player :
Scenario A : you enter a simple game at 2 turns / day. You're fine, you know you'll never run our of time. How fast your opponent plays doesn't matter.
Scenario B : you enter a 7 days per player tournament game. Here the outcome varies A LOT depending on how fast your opponent plays :
- If your opponent is very active, their time will almost never tick. After slightly more than 7 days, you run out of time while having played only about 14 moves out of 20
- If your opponent is as active as you, or even a bit less, the game may last 10 days, or a bit more, but none of the player will run out of time.
This way of counting time was designed and is fine for real time, because as soon as your opponent plays, your thinking time starts. In turn based, what starts when your opponent plays is, most of the time, not thinking time but idle time for you. This system does not reward players who think fast, it rewards player willing to stop what they're doing in real life and connect to play more often.
Is this the kind of behaviour BGA wants to encourage from their players ?
IE. If game length set to 15 days - it would still end at 15 days, but within that each player would get +time each time they take a turn to ensure that they don't go into the red on time as long as they're still playing - instead of the current system where the time just ticks-down and no new time ever gets added.
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- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
