#37521: "Is it ok to mislead the other players through the chat? "
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
It's about the activity from chat!
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
It's about the activity from chat!
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
It's about the activity from chat!
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
It's about the activity from chat!
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
It's about the activity from chat!
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
It's about the activity from chat!
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v89
案件沿革
EugeneLiapin dream team 12:47 PM
red is sub 12:47 PM
EugeneLiapinno sub? 12:52 PM
EugeneLiapin what is up? 12:53 PM
ANDN r u serios? 12:54 PM
Liza Fox Patronus What's the top? 12:54 PM
EugeneLiapin what is on top> 12:54 PM
ANDN i don't think this is how we have to play 12:55 PM
EugeneLiapin this is exately how to play 12:55 PM
where schould we dig? 12:55 PM
ANDN i'll investigate the rules! 12:56 PM
EugeneLiapin good luck with that 12:56 PM
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EugeneLiapin i think yellow is sub 01:18 PM
ANDN i think you are and i also think you play against the rules! 01:19 PM
EugeneLiapin gosh 01:19 PM
check the rules 01:19 PM
ANDN i will. i don't think you are allowed to mislead the other players by this chat. 01:20 PM
EugeneLiapin i am not mislead anyone 01:20 PM
i communicate 01:20 PM
that is the point of the game 01:20 PM
Liza Fox Patronus Top is gold, guys. Anyone who is not a saboteur, please, help to find it 01:20 PM
lailaion Fix me please 01:21 PM
EugeneLiapin yellow, i think you dont get the point of the game, but l do like your style 01:22 PM
i just get the whole bunch of good mood 01:22 PM
thank you, my friend 01:22 PM
Because it would make no sense to allow a player to declare having a role he does not have, without allowing the players to claim the role corresponding to the card received.
When it comes to banning verbal exchanges between players, that would have nothing to do with the rule that says nothing about it.
I suppose that Saboteur was extensively tested before being marketed, and a negligence of the author on an issue as essential as the exchange of information between players seems to me excluded in the absence of evidence to the contrary.
Your bug has probably been fixed already, or was linked to a temporary failure of BGA service.
In any case, when filling a bug report, make sure to have an explicit title linked to the incident (ex: with error message), so other players can recognize it and vote for it.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
