#38542: "the dice are not a good algorithm in backgammon, it gets really very annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
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Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Too often when I play with people who have no experience with the game and at the end of the game, the dice make moves that lose the game.
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v13.1
案件沿革
I play very often in real life, and I can assure you that it does not happen like that!!!!!
We make a strategy, we are in a position to win, and in 2 seconds the dice overturn the game, it's just impossible to play like that when you know the game.
It happens too often and it gets tiring!!!!
there are too many doubles too.
THX
I noticed an unrealistic high number of cases where opponent repeats my dices or I repeat his. There are better dice generators algorithms available.
Probably, the issue impacts on most games, but becomes more visible in Backgammon
Four of my last six rolls were doubles to beat an opponent. The randomizer is NOT working.
Dices are more then fustrating here and I never saw that anywhere else. :(
regards
I repeatedly tell to myself that I will stop playing and losing my time for what seems to be totally biased dice throws.
Whatever the direction (my opponent or I are obsecenely favoured...) I hate to play like this when dice totally influence the issue of the game.
And as a player of backgammon, I understand that sometimes this is like this in real life but never to that degree.
I am not a programmer and can not discuss algorithms or else but I can tell you it gives the impression a bias is given to the game perhaps to get more excitement and turn some difficult situations around or I do not know why..but I can tell you this is terribly frustrating.
2 suggestions :
1) could we have the guarantee or a change so that dice are truly randomly generated.
2) would there be a way to implement a duplicate mode where same dice rolls would be presented to players and only the comparative results would be considered for the ranking.
Please do consider our feedback and answer our frustration !
Or I and possibly many other will quit.
I find the Yahtzee rolls devastatingly punishing.
I find the Can't Stop rolls unnaturally repetitive.
C'est usant de jouer dans des conditions pareilles. Là mon adversaire a fait 4 doubles sur 5 lancers.
Ne me dites pas que ca peut arriver statistiquement.
Ca ruine et fausse 1 jeu sur 3 ou 4 à vue de nez.
Et quelque soit le sens : gagner ou perdre dans des conditions pareilles n'est pas satisfaisant.
SVP : un algorithme de vrai hasard sans AUCUNE correction.
Je ne connais rien à la programmation mais ne me dites pas que c'est le cas, parce que dans la vraie vie c'est different. Ca arrive une fois de temsp en temps mais pas aussi constamment.
Merci de votre aide pour adresser ce point qui rendra notre vie sur BGA tellement moins "stressante" !
and
en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Main_game_logic:_yourgamename.game.php#About_random_and_randomness
The random generator is cprrect and certified by the thousand and thousand game already played and statistics.
To reduce the random impact of the game, you can try the alpha backgammon matchplay game, with several points goal and the doubling cube.
Best regards
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