#40307: "According to official chess rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move"
這是關於哪方面的案件？
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Safari v14
案件沿革
1. When can a draw offer be made in online play
2. When the virtual chessclock automatically stops for one player and starts for the other.
1. When can a draw offer be made in online play
Article 5.3 of the FIDE ONLINE CHESS REGULATIONS:
"The player can offer a draw in accordance with any method provided by the playing zone."
Article 5.2.3 of the FIDE Laws of Chess taking effect from 1 January 2018:
"The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during the game , provided both players have made at least one move. This immediately ends the game."
There is nothing to say that a draw offer cannot be made in *online* play using the provided method ("Propose a Draw" button) at anytime during the game, "provided both players have made at least one move".
Bug: the "Propose a Draw" button is available before both players have made at least one move.
2. When the virtual chessclock automatically stops for one player and starts for the other.
Bug: on the "Propose a Draw" action, the clock of the player whose move it is stops and their opponent's clock starts.
This is in violation of Article 4.2 of the FIDE ONLINE CHESS REGULATIONS:
"When a player has made his/her move on the chessboard, his/her clock will automatically stop, and the
opponent’s clock will start."
The chessclock must only stop and start on the completion of moves, which is independent of the actions of offering or accepting a draw offer.
handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/OnlineChessRegulations.pdf
handbook.fide.com/chapter/E012018
I support the correction of this serious bug if it turns out (I haven’t checked it).
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
