#46526: "Automatic pass if no call is possible"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
However for turn-based, an option to autopass would be greatly appreciated.
In either case, I think the discarder should be forced to pass.
More advanced options could include "always call for ron" and "always call for pon".
Yes, the discarder should pass automaticly. (That would be a thumps up)
If people want it, with any of the mentioned autopass (if can't make a claim) and or autocall (ron, pon), I sure hope it becomes optional (and don't expect from me to ever turn it on).
Also yes, discarder should not even be prompted whether or not to call on their own tile.
However this is a big timesaver and usually players don't want to be bothered over needless call questions.
Should be optional though.
It's not suited for real time, and I probably won't turn forced autopass on at real time tables. Still I support this option. As I said on other posts without this feature turn-based is nearly impossible to go on.
I have implemented this (optional automatic calls, optional automatic play in Riichi) through player preferences on the studio version, with reasonable granularity. I will update all the suggestions here once it is in production and you can try it out. I am finishing the testing, so should be in a few days.
As ufm says, these options are primarily aimed at turn-based mode. In the realtime version, the time-based automatic pass works fine and is generally the better option (since it obfuscates information, obviates clicking, and is set at table level, i.e., consistently across players).
Some extra info if you care:
Whenever you do something on BGA through player preferences, it is really meant to be a personal preference, originally only for display-related features. Offering these options is thus a compromise and has some downsides. I would fully understand that it might annoy, for example, player #1 to learn that player #2 has set preferences in a way that reveals information about player #2's hand, especially if player #3 or #4 profit from it. As I said, a compromise. These cannot and should not be set at table level since they are situational.
Another thing that might not be obvious to players is that these preferences, which you set in the browser, so client-side, have to be proactively communicated to the server by the game's implementation (there is no automatic syncing). There is no "event" that is triggered (except page reload) when you change these, which means that they can be communicated to the server side only when you perform an action. This is a limitation of the current BGA framework.
@ufm: Thanks for the info on the random false delays. Unfortunately, BGA relies heavily on allotting time to players for their actions, and this would probably clash with that general idea.
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