#56881: "Improvements in the English strings of the game"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I noticed a few improvements that could be made to Klaverjassen's English strings and most of them are explained below (and I'm motivated to implement them if you agree):
For example it shouldn't be the same word when choosing the length of the game "16 rounds ? 8 rounds ?" than when we have two consecutive moments to choose the trump suit for a 'round'. But there are 'statistics' telling the "Number of takes in second round" (=No. This could be the second turn inside the current (2nd or 7th or 16th) round) or "You cannot choose the same Trump as the trump card passed in the first round"
In addition to that, some other words are used, like "Number of hands won" or "Number of hands with all tricks (Mars)" or "Player for this hand" or "Result of this hand" -> in theses cases "hand" means "round" or vice-versa
Or "Number of failed plays (Nat)" = same concept
So, before suggesting English-text modifications, I'd like to have your opinion.
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 HANDS, and a hand is divided into "2 ROUNDS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment" (<< These two words HAND + ROUND are those used in Belote and Coinche)
OR
* Should we speak of a game with 8 or 16 ROUNDS, and a round is divided into "2 TURNS (where we can choose the trump suit) and then a playing-cards moment"
OR
* something else :)
See you • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
案件沿革
normally translations are just handled by the community, but of course for English strings it is special because all games must be developed in English first.
So if there are really errors, it would be best to fix them in the source.
As Klaverjassen is a Dutch game, this gave some challenges because there just is no fixed English terminology - if you check the wikipedia and pagat rules, you will see they also use "hand" or "round" for the same concept. And for game specific concepts like "Nat" or "Mars" there really is just nothing translatable ("Nat" would actually mean "wet" in English)
I understand your suggestion, but since the game has been released over 1,5 years now, I am reluctant to change anything in the source string - as that would mean all long validated translations have to be redone again.
But if you want to make some improvements in consistency using the English-to-English translations, that's fine by me.
I believe it would be best to keep the term HAND for a full play of all dealt cards and team scoring.
For the Trump selection phase, I really don't have a preference or any argument for one or the other term.
If you say Hand/Round are the terms used in both Belote and Coinche, it makes sense to keep them aligned as they are all card games from the same family.
Thanks and keep enjoying Klaverjassen!
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- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
