#57959: "Giving a maximum number of cards to be held"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v97
案件沿革
www.pagat.com/rummy/carousel.html#machiavelli
I won't add any other fancy rule.
The effect of this tactic is to drive away players who want to play and new players. Soon, these players will lose interest in the game because of the tactics of some.
Machiavelli Arena stats
Season Games. Players
S0 824 142
S1 3074 255
S2 2153 175
S3 1896 178
S4 3235 232
S5 2617 230
S6 1218 175
S7 884 160
S8 822 157
I fully agree with the complaints already made on this subject. Penalties do not exist in the real game and on the site, they were introduced to PENALIZE a player who does not respect the rules, but it turns out that in the end, they favor those who cheat!!! Couldn't we simply remove these penalties which completely divert the objective of the game, which in my opinion, is to improve one's strategy instead of seeking to win at all costs, in defiance of the rules of the game and one's opponents? ? Especially since when faced with this type of player, I systematically ask for the game to be abandoned, and this is systematically refused by the cheater!!!! They tell me that I just have to cheat too!!! I really like Machiavelli but it is more and more difficult to play "normally" and many of the "friends" I used to play with have abandoned the site for this reason....
The only addition is the 13 cards limit.
As Pagat says, "A general problem with manipulation rummy games is that laying down sets and runs helps the other players by giving them extra manipulation possibilities. The result is that players tend to hoard cards, waiting for others to meld, and hoping to go out by playing their whole hand at once. One solution to this problem is to limit the number of cards that can be played on one turn"...
There have been several changes made since the beginning (2013) and removing penalties doesn't prevent people from hoarding.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
