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#62353: "Wasn't given an option NOT to take action after placing caballeros"
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I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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2022年 4月 6日 21:00 •
Volker78 • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 4月 6日 21:22 •
2022年 4月 7日 7:30 • There is a button "Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action", when placing caballeros
Travelin Eli • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 4月11日 0:24 • Have seen the same issue at least 3 times. Once for sure with the "Special Scoring -
All regions with the most Caballeros are scored immediately" Action card.
All regions with the most Caballeros are scored immediately" Action card.
SuperStes • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 4月11日 0:36 • I have had the same thing happening (i was at the same table as Travelin Eli and was at the receiving end of the stick :( very frustrating ! )
Table #257938244 (playing in firefox 99.0, 64-bits)
Turn 146 - I chose the action to score the region with most caballeros in it, because everybody had some in them but me, and the playets comming after me would benefit the most, so i wanted to block them - i chose the card, placed my caballero's, and then the action was performed without an option not to choose it...
It happened earlier in the game (I think) when opponent pyonfey mad a similar ridiculous choice to score somthing that benefitted not him but two other players (me not being one of them)
It was 10 to 20 points my opponents got handed where they shouldn't have - a real shame because overall the gameplay feels very much like the real deal
Thanks for looking into it
Table #257938244 (playing in firefox 99.0, 64-bits)
Turn 146 - I chose the action to score the region with most caballeros in it, because everybody had some in them but me, and the playets comming after me would benefit the most, so i wanted to block them - i chose the card, placed my caballero's, and then the action was performed without an option not to choose it...
It happened earlier in the game (I think) when opponent pyonfey mad a similar ridiculous choice to score somthing that benefitted not him but two other players (me not being one of them)
It was 10 to 20 points my opponents got handed where they shouldn't have - a real shame because overall the gameplay feels very much like the real deal
Thanks for looking into it
Volker78 • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 4月11日 22:35 • PLease make a screenshot of the "place caballeros" step before, where the "Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action" button is missing
Pandomonio • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 5月 2日 22:07 •
2022年 5月 2日 22:30 • Today, was unable to skip action after allocation of caballeros, it have triggered automatically.
It was not my first time.
This is a critical failure altering the game completely.
It was not my first time.
This is a critical failure altering the game completely.
spip74 • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 5月 4日 11:26 • I've checked the replay from a similar case of mine and i think i've found the problem. I play from mobile phone, and on it the button "place caballeros and skip the action" isn't visible.
It's visible only if you play with the phone in panoramic mode.
Hope it helps
It's visible only if you play with the phone in panoramic mode.
Hope it helps
Volker78 • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 5月 4日 17:54 • @spip74: I cannot reproduce on mobile in replay. Can you make a screenshot with browser+version? And please pay attention, that placing-caballeros for that move is chosen BEFORE action.
RodimusPrime • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 5月 8日 18:52 • Me too, table #263623583. But this screenshot tells it all: imgur.com/a/8UPKvYU
This is a serious UX bug with a huge effect on scoring. The game *does* give you the option to not perform the card action, but this choice is not given to the user in isolation. It is lumped in with another choice to confirm placement of caballeros, and it is also "hidden" behind a non-blue button.
Question 1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]."
Question 2: (screenshotted above): "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement of caballeros] [Cancel] [Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action]."
The BGA/Web conventions for button colors are that (a) standard buttons should always be blue and do only one thing, and (b) only cancel/undo buttons should be red or white.
Please make it a separate step in the flow to prompt the user to either use or not use the special action. This decision does not belong in the place caballeros phase.
This is a serious UX bug with a huge effect on scoring. The game *does* give you the option to not perform the card action, but this choice is not given to the user in isolation. It is lumped in with another choice to confirm placement of caballeros, and it is also "hidden" behind a non-blue button.
Question 1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]."
Question 2: (screenshotted above): "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement of caballeros] [Cancel] [Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action]."
The BGA/Web conventions for button colors are that (a) standard buttons should always be blue and do only one thing, and (b) only cancel/undo buttons should be red or white.
Please make it a separate step in the flow to prompt the user to either use or not use the special action. This decision does not belong in the place caballeros phase.
RodimusPrime • 開發者無法重現這項錯誤:
2022年 5月 8日 18:52 • SUGGESTION:
Suggested Q1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]"
Suggested Q2: "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement] [Cancel]"
Suggeseted Q3: "You may perform the special action [Use action] [Do not use action]"
Suggested Q1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]"
Suggested Q2: "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement] [Cancel]"
Suggeseted Q3: "You may perform the special action [Use action] [Do not use action]"
Volker78 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
2022年 5月 8日 21:22 • I see, that the current solution is not ideal. But I have to see, if I find the time to do this another way. It would require some big code changes for this, so it is not as simple as it seems.
RodimusPrime • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
2022年 5月 8日 23:30 •
2022年 5月10日 10:51 • Awesome. I understand. Thanks for considering this.
Alternatively, a quick code hack could be to reorder and change the copy on the buttons to read "[Confirm placement and perform action][Confirm placement and skip action][Cancel]" (...blue then blue then white buttons). This kind of change would remove confusion for me, at least.
Alternatively, a quick code hack could be to reorder and change the copy on the buttons to read "[Confirm placement and perform action][Confirm placement and skip action][Cancel]" (...blue then blue then white buttons). This kind of change would remove confusion for me, at least.
davypi • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
2022年 5月14日 3:38 •
2022年 5月14日 10:07 •
2022年 5月14日 10:09 • Can you maybe instead change the color of the button? The "confirm and skip action" button is the same color as the background, which makes it easy to not realize there is a button there. If the button were yellow or orange maybe, it would stand out as an actual option rather than blend in with the ribbon its on.
RodimusPrime • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
2022年 7月 9日 7:09 • Belated thank you for the workaround!
I have been enjoying this game more the last couple of months. And while the buttons are now a little wordy, I haven't once gotten messed up by the logic flow like I did before. Thanks!
I have been enjoying this game more the last couple of months. And while the buttons are now a little wordy, I haven't once gotten messed up by the logic flow like I did before. Thanks!
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