#63792: "Do you want a REVEAL DECOY button ?"
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
I missclicked on a tile with an unrevealed token, then the game sent my ships there and prevented me from undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
I missclicked on a tile with an unrevealed token, then the game sent my ships there and prevented me from undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
I missclicked on a tile with an unrevealed token, then the game sent my ships there and prevented me from undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
I missclicked on a tile with an unrevealed token, then the game sent my ships there and prevented me from undoing.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
It is a big issue as a single missclick can change a game a lot, and these are bound to happen with BGA UI.
On Vassal, there is a separate button to check for decoy. I think it would be better to have it there too:
A button to "check for decoy everywhere", so that you can manually decide when to "commit". • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
I missclicked on a tile with an unrevealed token, then the game sent my ships there and prevented me from undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
I missclicked on a tile with an unrevealed token, then the game sent my ships there and prevented me from undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
After a click on an unrevealed token, the game will immediately reveal it and preven further undoing.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v100
案件沿革
Second, it is the way of life on BGA : all can't be undo.
Changed to suggestion.
I.e. add a button check for decoys next the UNDO and DONE. Or with the counters themselves. Then you should be able to undo until a check is made.
In chess, you think before touching a piece. On BGA, it is the same before clicking somewhere.
Clicking on an ennemy occupied hex CAN'T be undo.
I am on a laptop and that is rarely an issue. According to Galdred it is much easier to make such a mistake on a phone.
So if you can disable the issuing of movement if the screen was dragged, that should fix it. I am not sure if this isn't a general BGA issue though.
It is much easier to make such mistakes on BGA than on live chess. Also, on Tabletop, you would usually ask the opponent if a token disappear, and not be committed to it after touching it (there is a check for decoy/check for cloaking button on Vassal).
If it is not needed, why even have an undo function in the first place?
It is on me, but it is very weird to not be able to undo a critical move.
Maybe the issue is more with the fact that scrolling with something selected will usually action it, but it would probably be harder to fix in a satisfying way.
It is not a huge issue with a mouse, but on a touchpad, or worse, on mobile, it can cause quite a few issues, hence why I think having to "commit" moves to check for decoys would be better (not confirm each individual move).
"No way to undo a move to an enemy unrevealed token"
changed to
"Do you want a REVEAL DECOY button ?"
Would make it easier to remind it could be a decoy, and think twice which unit to send in first to check that :P
Plus, it is only undoable when the enemyships are hidden. If enemy ships are visible, no decoy check, so it can be undone easily.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
