#67850: "Allow players to quit a game if a time joker is used"
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
When someone at a table uses a time joker, the other players should be given the option to quit without punishments, and there should be no punishment to the player who used the joker either.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
Nothing against time jokers per se, I've used them myself, it's just that other players should not be forced to "accept" it.
I think that when someone uses a joker, everyone should have a few extra days for their first move after the return. Especially if it's a fast paced turn based game.
The idea is that when you join a game, you know how reasonably long it is going to be and you commit for that but the joker is outside of reasonable expectations.
If you entered a game and something unforeseen happed. The worst case is you get a penalty when the rest of the players decide to skip your turn. It has happed to me before and trust me. It’s NOT life ending ;-). I am back to 100% again.
Yes it sucks for the rest of the players when it happens. But no more than a time joker and its impacts to the rest of the players. Hence just getting rid of the time joker.
Alternatively, someone in last place might use a joker, hoping other players will leave, thus invalidating the game.
I suggest either you are allowed to leave a game with a time joker with no penalty, or that time jokers are not allowed to be used on games where there is expected 4 or more turns in a day. Time jokers should then only be used on games, where it is expected the game will be played slow anyway. After all if you know you have something in your future which prevent you from playing 3 to 4 days, should you really be joining a game which expects you to finish in that time period?
If Players A and B know each other and Player B is happy to do favours to help Player A strategically do anything, I feel like this is almost the least of what they can do for Player A.
OK, sure if Player A and B don't know each other and Player A happens to see Player B use their time joker, yes, they can choose that moment to strategically quit that specific game. But how often would this come up among strangers? Do others see time jokers being used a lot more frequently than has been my experience (I think maybe 3 times in about 3 years on BGA now)?
And how is this different to Player A noticing Player B is now over time and choosing to boot Player B just to avoid a loss? I realise being over time is a different consideration for many who considering timing to be part of "the rules" and losing on timing to be just as valid as losing by playing it out. But there's also lots of people who maintain they were booted just so another player could avoid a loss - is this not also strategic quitting, but yet a necessary evil to allow players to get out of games where a player has just vanished?
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
