#72677: "Solo mode: a space can't accumulate more than 6 resources unless the player plays a ruby"
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Move 57. The ore space is filled in with the seventh (7th ore) but I still keep my ruby.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Move 57. The ore space is filled in with the seventh (7th ore) but I still keep my ruby.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Move 57. The ore space is filled in with the seventh (7th ore) but I still keep my ruby.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Move 57. The ore space is filled in with the seventh (7th ore) but I still keep my ruby.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Move 57. The ore space is filled in with the seventh (7th ore) but I still keep my ruby.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Move 57. The ore space is filled in with the seventh (7th ore) but I still keep my ruby.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
From the last page of the manual, under "Refilling the accumulating spaces"
"Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round" • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
In the game I linked, I was trying to reproduce the 200-point solo play-by-play here: boardgamegeek.com/thread/1187325/article/16040582#16040582
There's a part where OP mentions about the rule being a mistranslation, see image:
imgur.com/a/ISl990A
Original paragraph:
"Prüft, bevor ihr die Anhäufungsfelder füllt, ob es Anhäufungsfelder gibt, auf denen mindestens 6 Waren liegen. Immer
wenn dies der Fall ist, müsst ihr alle Waren, die auf dem Aktionsfeld liegen, zurück in den allgemeinen Vorrat geben. Ihr
könnt 1 Rubin einsetzen, um ein Anhäufungsfeld eine Runde lang davor zu schützen, dass es zwangsweise leer geräumt
wird. (Dadurch können auf einem Aktionsfeld auch einmal mehr als 6 Waren liegen.)
Ansonsten gibt es keine weiteren Änderungen"
Translation (by google):
""Before you fill the accumulation fields, check whether there are accumulation fields with at least 6 goods on them. Always
if this is the case, you must return all goods that are on the action space to the general supply. Her
can use 1 ruby to protect a cluster tile from being forcibly cleared for 1 turn
becomes. (This means that there can be more than 6 goods on an action space.)
Otherwise there are no further changes"
boardgamegeek.com/file/download_redirect/d2b34d9189f8b709b5626a6d57328e97b09f5961152f2a9f/Caverna_Rules_EN.pdf.zip
Page 24: Refilling the accumulating spaces
Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with more than 6 goods. Remove all the goods from all of the spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round. (This way an accumulating space may accumulate more than 6 goods.)
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2191584/rulebook-last-page-solo-rules-problem
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2688889/article/38047810#38047810
Website Rulebook also contains the error
lookout-spiele.de/upload/de_caverna.html_Rules_Caverna_EN.pdf
en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpcaverna
==Caverna Errata ==
=== Solo Game accumulating ===
There is a misprint in the "Refilling the accumulating spaces" section of the solo game rules on page 24 of the official PDF Rules:
==== Rule as written: ====
Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with '''more than 6 goods'''. Remove all the goods from all of the spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round. (This way an accumulating space may accumulate more than 6 goods.)
==== Corrected as: ====
Before refilling the accumulating spaces, check if there are any spaces with '''6 or more goods'''. Remove all the goods from all of the spaces where this is the case and return them to the general supply. For each Ruby you spend, you can prevent this from happening for one of these spaces. The goods on the accumulating spaces that you paid a Ruby for will be safe for another round. (This way an accumulating space may accumulate more than 6 goods.)
=== Impact ===
In a solo game, if you end your turn with 6 (not 7) goods on a space. It will be cleared before being refilled unless a ruby is spent.
==== Source: ====
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2191584/rulebook-last-page-solo-rules-problem
Grzegorz Kobiela (Designer/Publisher)
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
