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#73365: "Change starting player / starting card"
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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The current rules is a restrictive variant, and not the much more widespread (and more interesting imo) rules:
"The winner of the previous game starts a round with any valid Tiến Lên card set" (for reference: www.vinagames.com/tienlen.php , en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%E1%BA%BFn_l%C3%AAn or any popular app)
- The starting player is always the player who won the previous round (or 3 spades if it's the first round)
- That player can play ANY card, and is not forced to play the 3 of spades
It seems like a little change, but it greatly improves the game:
- it's not rare that the 3 is played as a final meld, when part of a low straight combo. Being forced to play that 3 is sometimes really frustrating and can mess a good hand for no reason.
- begining a new round first give an higher incentive to finish 1st / take risk. Tien len is all about that tension, 1st place should be rewarding.
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案件沿革
2022年10月 7日 13:17 •
Hellkite19 • 開發者需要更詳細的建議內容:
2022年10月10日 23:09 • I think the reason why the original game has it like that is because it gives the other players a higher chance of winning. If the winning player can go first and no card restriction, then they would have an massive advantage as they would be able to play any combination first and create a snowball effect.
What I suggest is that the last place player will start first with no restrictions to have a catch up mechanic so the games will be closer. This will make getting 1st place for the max points a huge deal, especially for the last round were everyone can will with 1st place. What do you think of this suggestion?
What I suggest is that the last place player will start first with no restrictions to have a catch up mechanic so the games will be closer. This will make getting 1st place for the max points a huge deal, especially for the last round were everyone can will with 1st place. What do you think of this suggestion?
Shobu • 開發者需要更詳細的建議內容:
2022年10月11日 23:03 • I think the "snowball" effect is balanced given how much popular is this setup, but i understand it can maybe implemented later as an option. I don't think the option of making the last player playing first is a good idea, never saw such a variant, may be it's better to stay with the current rules (3 of spades begins).
However i really think the requirement to play 3 of spades in the first meld should be removed (or proposed as an option)
However i really think the requirement to play 3 of spades in the first meld should be removed (or proposed as an option)
Hellkite19 • 開發者認同這是個好點子,並計劃實行:
2022年10月17日 19:54 •
2022年10月17日 22:15 • I see what you mean. I will keep the base game as lowest card value starts next round with that player need to play that card. Instead, I will add a new game option for the 1st place of the round to start the next round with no card restrictions.
Hellkite19 • 開發者認同這是個好點子,並計劃實行:
2022年11月10日 3:22 • For this game option of the winner starts first with no restrictions, who start the first round? Also what do you think I should make the name of this new game option as?
Shobu • 開發者認同這是個好點子,並計劃實行:
2022年11月14日 11:08 • First round is decided with 3 of spades.
New name... I really don't know . Maybe just "alternative"?
New name... I really don't know . Maybe just "alternative"?
Hellkite19 • 此建議已獲實施:
2022年11月14日 22:40 • I made some changes as shown to the default mode that is on the current production:
- First round:
- Player with the lowest card value and ranking starts first
- That starting player must use that card in their new starting combination
- Rounds after the first round:
- The 1st place winner of the previous round starts first
- That starting player has no card restriction in their new starting combination
I made this decision because of how different the environment of playing online on BGA vs playing physically during Tet. I believe that making this change as the default mode will help promote this game for the competitive players. It will be good if this game can be played in arena games and tournaments. Thank you for your help!!
- First round:
- Player with the lowest card value and ranking starts first
- That starting player must use that card in their new starting combination
- Rounds after the first round:
- The 1st place winner of the previous round starts first
- That starting player has no card restriction in their new starting combination
I made this decision because of how different the environment of playing online on BGA vs playing physically during Tet. I believe that making this change as the default mode will help promote this game for the competitive players. It will be good if this game can be played in arena games and tournaments. Thank you for your help!!
Shobu • 此建議已獲實施:
2022年11月20日 0:05 • Missed your message. I think it's a good change, it's pretty much the norm on every Tien Len implementation, it really add an extra incentive to finish first (and taking risk), while not breaking the overall balance.
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