#75810: "Maybe House Higher Scoring Rule Wrong..?"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
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Google Chrome v107
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
165
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
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Google Chrome v107
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
165
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
165
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Mike completed the purple column midgame but did NOT have a house when doing so. So he scored the lower score (2 instead of 3), which is what we expected. However, this also knocked out the higher score for me, even though I had not yet finished this column. If we're reading the English rules correctly (from the BGG pdf link), the higher score for a column should only be knocked out for all other players if/when someone scores the higher score with a house.
In fairness, if this is not the case, the official rules don't make that clear. In fact, the simply stated rules totally imply, IMO, that the higher score SHOULD still be available. But maybe that's wrong..? • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
案件沿革
The rules say :
"• If this is the first time this column has been
completed by any player this game then the
player(s) who completed it this round should
mark [circle] on the larger number at the top of the
column.
To score these higher points the player(s)
must have at least one Cat House in the column.
All other players then mark an [X] on that larger
number to indicate that the higher score is no
longer available.
• If the column was completed in a previous round
it can still be completed by the other player(s).
However, this column now scores fewer points
and the player(s) who complete it should mark
the small number with [circle]."
So once the column has been completed, you can't get the larger amount of points.
The subject has been discussed on bgg too.
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2215132/column-bonus-scoring-without-cat-house
Regards
"3- CHECK FOR COMPLETED CAT TOWERS
Once all players have marked an item or passed, check if any
player has completed a Cat Tower (one individual column) by
having all the available hexes of that tower filled with items.
That player, and all other players who completed the same
tower on that turn mark a [circle] on one of the numbers at the
top of the tower.
• If the player(s) who completed the tower has a Cat House in
that tower, they mark the larger number with a [circle] All other
players mark [X] on that number to show that those points
are no longer available.
• If the player(s) who completed the tower does not have
a Cat House in that tower, they mark the lower number
with a [circle]
Once the larger number has been marked with a [circle], any player
who completes that tower on a later round marks the lower
number, even if they have a Cat House in the tower."
So this is the opposite, IMO, and seems to mean that the larger number is always available until the turn in which at least one player gets it.
Game-design-wise, this just seems to make more sense to me. If you don't/can't get a cat house for the higher points, you should not be semi-"rewarded" for finishing that column first. It removes, IMO, some of the incentive to try and score max value.
And finally, that BGG thread does NOT have a definitive answer :) Just a guess from a user (who even says "I think" right up front) :)
The publisher posted on the bgg topic, and didn't come back on it to tell that the last answer was wrong, so...
Without any definitive response I had to implement a way to do it.
I took all informations I found, and did the best I could.
Without any clarification from the publisher, it will score the way it is implemented.
Thanks again for your feedback
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
