#75818: "Allow food conversion and rearranging animals at any time (not only when it's your turn)"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
案件沿革
"You may rearrange your animals on your Home board whenever and how often you like as long as you abide by the following rules." and "To feed your Dwarfs, you may convert goods into Food at any time (without constraints). "
Another solution would be to perform the harvest phase simultaneously, which was rejected before because the decision of one player might influence other players.
I added a comment to the other proposal request, because i didn't find the spot in the rules that states the harvest phase should be played one after another player.
Also, animals reorganization is automatic, it only need human action if you don't have enough room for them.
So yeah that could speed the game a bit, but not sure it's worth the complexity of code.
Which also means you should never have to discard an animal. After Breeding, if you have too many animals and not enough space, you would immediately convert them into Food.
This is not Agricola, where they wander off and you lose the benefit of breeding completely.
I know its a fair amount more programming but it would be enough to make me play it much more because the down time on others turn in this game can suck, especially when you can see, oh i want to just move those animals over there while I wait but I can't.
I would be satisfied if instead of "anytime", conversions and rearranging were simultaneous only during the harvest phase. Permitting other players to make swooshing noises and movements during your turn could be distracting while you are trying to think.
That said, the current situation of forcing you to wait while 2-6 other player perform their conversions 1-by-1 explode the playtime in such a way that is insufferable. This might be the only game where I think live play could beat BGA for playtime, and it's entirely for this reason. The expected playtime for a BGA 4 player game is reported as 2:40, and the harvest phase is probably contributing 30 minutes to that total.
The argument that someone might change their harvest based on my harvest is such an infinitely narrow use case, I fail to recognize the validity of the argument. At the very least, simultaneous harvests could be an option, and the current "excruciating mode" should be made a non-default toggle.
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
