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#75844: "Victory regardless of being caught or not"
#75844: "Victory regardless of being caught or not"
這是關於哪方面的案件?
發生什麼事? 請從下方選擇
規則:遊戲規則有所錯漏
發生什麼事? 請從下方選擇
規則:遊戲規則有所錯漏
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細節描述
• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
-• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
-• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
-• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
-• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
The game ends with a victory, even if the gardeners get caught. This isn't really a rules violation per say because the game still ends, but it seems like that should be a defeat state.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
2022年11月15日 19:47 • ufm • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:
Duplicate of boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75834
Should I treat the score to 0 regardless of the result when players got executed?
Should I treat the score to 0 regardless of the result when players got executed?
2022年11月15日 20:18 • bensi • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:
No, the score is still the score. But it shouldn't be counted as a victory unless you finish the garden without being caught. (There is a 10 point penalty for being caught, so if the gardeners get caught at 36, their final score should be 26, defeat)
2022年11月15日 20:25 • ufm • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:
I can't do that as the framework is set to display positive score as 'win' in solo or co-op games.
Either the score should be 0 or the status has to be 'victory' at least in the final screen.
Hence 'Executed by the Queen' stat tracks actual win/loss record instead.
Either the score should be 0 or the status has to be 'victory' at least in the final screen.
Hence 'Executed by the Queen' stat tracks actual win/loss record instead.
2022年11月15日 20:30 • bensi • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:
Ahh, ok. Understood... It might be better to have the score set to 0 on being caught then... just because of how weird it feels to get executed and see 'win.' I'm not sure.
2022年11月15日 20:35 • bensi • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:
I think for now the best is that it says win, but the 10 point deduction still happens and it says 'Executed by Queen'
2022年11月15日 22:16 • wolmot • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:
I will add my comment from the duplicate bug here also for reference, in my opinion an execution should really result in a loss:
I am not suggesting a house rule, the actual rules from the game are very explicit:
“ You and your teammates immediately lose the game if the Queen reaches or passes the Gardeners on the score track “
It is actually your implementation and the default BGA behavior that are leading to a house rule, by incorrectly recording a positive score as a Win. (Other games on BGA sometimes work around this by forcing scores to become negative in case of specific losing conditions - something you could also easily achieve by for instance distracting another -1000 or whatever when executed by the queen)
Please, take this up again and discuss this issue with the publisher, it seems really strange that they would prefer to have all games declared as Win.
I am not suggesting a house rule, the actual rules from the game are very explicit:
“ You and your teammates immediately lose the game if the Queen reaches or passes the Gardeners on the score track “
It is actually your implementation and the default BGA behavior that are leading to a house rule, by incorrectly recording a positive score as a Win. (Other games on BGA sometimes work around this by forcing scores to become negative in case of specific losing conditions - something you could also easily achieve by for instance distracting another -1000 or whatever when executed by the queen)
Please, take this up again and discuss this issue with the publisher, it seems really strange that they would prefer to have all games declared as Win.
2022年11月16日 16:11 • ufm • 開發者已確認這項錯誤:
Received a mail from the publisher. The final score will be changed into 0 when they lose.
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任何可能重現這項錯誤或了解你的建議之相關資訊,都請在此填寫:
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號/步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題?
- 問題是否發生了好幾次?每次都發生?時好時壞?
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
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bug?id=75844