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#7601: "builder rule - end of the game"
#7601: "builder rule - end of the game"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
not visible at the final position• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
not visible at the final position• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
not visible at the final position• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
not visible at the final position• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
not visible at the final position• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
not visible at the final position• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
One turn before the end of the game(so,remaining only 1 tile after this turn),when the current tile is being used on a city/road with a builder on it,the last tile goes to the next player and not to the player using the builder advantage.I understand the game is programmed to deal the tiles before one ends his/her turn,but maybe this should not apply for the last 2 tiles,so as to avoid this violation of the builder rule.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v58
案件沿革
2017年 5月30日 23:47 • msks • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
don't know if others have encountered the same bug,since the expansion is still fresh
2017年 6月16日 13:48 • Plaster CZ • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
cs.4.boardgamearena.com/carcassonne?table=31100607 same situation, builder on city, where is placed my last tile, opponent have one in hand, but it should go to me (temple in this game)
2017年10月 1日 13:53 • Gilou • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Hello !
I've got the same problem ! I don't know if you can see that but it's here :
fr.2.boardgamearena.com/carcassonne?table=33989559
Thank's for all !
I've got the same problem ! I don't know if you can see that but it's here :
fr.2.boardgamearena.com/carcassonne?table=33989559
Thank's for all !
2019年 7月 3日 16:58 • Robo65 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Drawing tiles before the beginning of one's turn is generally a problem. It speeds up gameplay and most players at offline tables do it, but when somebody has to draw an extra tile, many types of problems can occur.
This can even happen in the basic game, when a tile cannot be placed and has to be put aside. It is highly improbable, but not impossible, that this happens when the tile stack is empty. The only solution then is to give back all pre-drawn tiles, shuffle and begin drawing again.
With the builder, the problem occurs much more frequently. For a consistent gameplay, pre-drawing should be disabled when playing this extension.
This can even happen in the basic game, when a tile cannot be placed and has to be put aside. It is highly improbable, but not impossible, that this happens when the tile stack is empty. The only solution then is to give back all pre-drawn tiles, shuffle and begin drawing again.
With the builder, the problem occurs much more frequently. For a consistent gameplay, pre-drawing should be disabled when playing this extension.
2020年 4月 7日 0:26 • euklid314 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
The builder bug is still open. See, e.g.,
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=71420946
The last move with no. 224 should not have been mine, since my opponent played the builder in the previous move. She should have been able to play 224, not me!
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=71420946
The last move with no. 224 should not have been mine, since my opponent played the builder in the previous move. She should have been able to play 224, not me!
2020年 4月25日 17:00 • Arlequi del Caos 41 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
A mi m'acaba de passar...i amb la última fitxa hagués pogut fer molt més!!!
2020年 4月30日 1:05 • abudom • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Happened to me. Move 224.
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=74843108
I dont think I could have won the game.
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=74843108
I dont think I could have won the game.
2020年 5月 1日 13:29 • HenryBlatbugIII • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
How has this bug been open for three years? It seems simple to fix: If someone gets a bonus turn from a builder but the bag is empty, give them the tile that the final player currently has in their hand. Maybe display a warning to a player (if (number of people before them who have a builder out) > (number of people after them who have a tile) + (number of tiles left in the bag)) that this might happen.
Also, another occurence: move 218 of table #78824346. telemin should have gotten another turn, giving him the final Monastery tile.
Also, another occurence: move 218 of table #78824346. telemin should have gotten another turn, giving him the final Monastery tile.
2020年 6月28日 5:34 • blackgold369 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
I've encountered this several times when playing with the builder. Not sure how to link specific games here as those pages have already been closed.
Being able to preview our next tile/s is I think necessary when playing online from transmission/reaction times as the full play area may not be fully visible to some/most players as the game advances. Is it possible modify the programming that when playing with the builder the final 'X' tiles (X equaling the player count, or 'X' x 2 for the 3 tile variant) are held in reserve and drawn/played with out previewing them allowing players with active builders to get their extra tile.
Having a 'tiles left' counter in each players tracking box (or whatever it's called) would also be helpful as Carcassonne doesn't have equal turns.
Thank you!
Being able to preview our next tile/s is I think necessary when playing online from transmission/reaction times as the full play area may not be fully visible to some/most players as the game advances. Is it possible modify the programming that when playing with the builder the final 'X' tiles (X equaling the player count, or 'X' x 2 for the 3 tile variant) are held in reserve and drawn/played with out previewing them allowing players with active builders to get their extra tile.
Having a 'tiles left' counter in each players tracking box (or whatever it's called) would also be helpful as Carcassonne doesn't have equal turns.
Thank you!
2020年11月23日 9:58 • Kaladry • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Same problem every time I play with the Traders and Builders expansion. With the last tile I may have been able to connect to a field that was stolen from me to steal back but the last tile went to another person instead and I lost by 10 points.
Like someone else said, this should be easy to fix by when there are only a few tiles left (probably tiles = number of players), stop the advance drawing in case the builder is triggered.
Like someone else said, this should be easy to fix by when there are only a few tiles left (probably tiles = number of players), stop the advance drawing in case the builder is triggered.
2020年12月31日 13:30 • Ernest van Kaboche • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Same problem on game boardgamearena.com/9/carcassonne?table=13412854
The last tile is already distribute to my opposant.
The last tile is already distribute to my opposant.
2021年 1月 9日 21:48 • ValentijnB2 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
I had the same issue at Table #138006136 - would be grateful if this would be solved!
2021年 2月24日 8:34 • Lusakajoe • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
imgur.com/UuWn0t0
See same problem here at end of game - Lusakajoe (blue) has played to his city with a builder to the left, game log recognises builder has been engaged, but game has given next turn to Malnskova (yellow) rather than Lusakajoe. Probably doesn't dramatically change the result, but should be fixed.
Table #142283752
Move #357
Progression 99%
See same problem here at end of game - Lusakajoe (blue) has played to his city with a builder to the left, game log recognises builder has been engaged, but game has given next turn to Malnskova (yellow) rather than Lusakajoe. Probably doesn't dramatically change the result, but should be fixed.
Table #142283752
Move #357
Progression 99%
2022年 3月 8日 21:26 • gamemybrainsout • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
game 248603575, i was supposed to receive a bonus tile due to the builder being in effect. however all of the tiles were in players hands at the end of the game (Not the variant where 3 tiles are held). as a result, i did not get a draw. Per the rules, i was to receive a tile. based on the ones that remained in hands, it made a huge difference in the game. flawed implementation of this rule.....
2022年 6月10日 15:24 • Archebald1991 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Аналогичная проблема. С 2017 года так и не исправили...
2022年 8月21日 18:54 • Karpenter45 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
By rules, players are draw tile on begin of his turn.
Usualy players draw tile before to speed up game. Like implementation on BGA.
But, if builder is in game, and game is going to end. Next player is not drawing tile, because player with builder can get extra turn.
Possible solution is:
1st possible solution:
If on board are placed X builders and in deck are less or equal tiles = 2*X, then player will get next tile on beginning of turn.
2nd possible solution:
When player enlarge city/road with builder and he had to get extra turn, and next player has drawn tile in his supply, then this tile is moved to current player because he have extra turn granted by enlarged city/road with builder. When game with 3 or more player, then drawn tiles will be also moved from 3rd player to 2nd, 4th to 3rt etc.
Usualy players draw tile before to speed up game. Like implementation on BGA.
But, if builder is in game, and game is going to end. Next player is not drawing tile, because player with builder can get extra turn.
Possible solution is:
1st possible solution:
If on board are placed X builders and in deck are less or equal tiles = 2*X, then player will get next tile on beginning of turn.
2nd possible solution:
When player enlarge city/road with builder and he had to get extra turn, and next player has drawn tile in his supply, then this tile is moved to current player because he have extra turn granted by enlarged city/road with builder. When game with 3 or more player, then drawn tiles will be also moved from 3rd player to 2nd, 4th to 3rt etc.
2022年 8月21日 19:03 • Matisek • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
please work in the last second turn of the builder if the game expands the part with the builder
2022年 9月 2日 11:48 • DaFees • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
As a huge Carcassonne fan I JUST came across this "bug" in a 5-player game. The log for the game even acknowledges I should've had a second turn but then didn't give it to me because the remaining tiles were in the hands of the players after me. Normally I might say this is whatever, but I could possibly argue I would've won this game were it not for this bug!
2022年 9月 2日 11:49 • DaFees • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Forgot to add a link to the game in question! boardgamearena.com/5/carcassonne?table=296669105#
2022年11月 3日 16:20 • bananasplay • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
How has this bug still not been fixed five full years after it was first reported?
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