#76260: "Incorrect middle wait (2 fu) bug"
這是關於哪方面的案件？
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Move 164
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Move 164
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Move 164
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Move 164
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Move 164
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Move 164
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v107
案件沿革
Hans and fus are treated as the highest scoring form based on the final result regardless of other waits.
For example, with a hand of 1234456AAABBB, ron on 7 does not add 2 fu as the wait must be 4-7 open.
However, ron on 1/4 adds 2 fu as it can be considered as 1/4 single wait.
And then, with a hand of 1234456ABCDEF, ron on 4 is now treated as 0 fu as treating the wait as 4-7 open adds pinfu and becomes the highest scoring form instead.
"Hans and fus are treated as the highest scoring form..." (This part yes, eg. you score Double identical Chows instead of 7 pairs, same structure, but a fan difference) "...based on the final result regardless of other waits." This latter part is unknown to me and on tournaments, people never get extra points if it rulewise can be prohibbited, in simple terms, you either have (truely) 1 possibility or you don't (theoretical or not, even if all tiles of one possibity are all on the table). This argument is always used and accepted by everybody).
Your last example, yes your last example Pinfu is awared (if applicable, ABCDEF being 2 chows too and the closing pair is already in hand as is the case), but let say Riichi been declared and ABC being a pung, then the winner never gets 2 fu (on the 1 - 4 - 7).
I don't want to argue, and i'm glad with the implementation, the dispute is only game altering in the case of from 20 to 22 (30 to 32 etc), but i don't think 99,9% of the cases people don't explicitly play for these 2 fu, so 3 cheers for those who do and get a better score.
I will pose this particular question to the EMA and their response, because a couple of years ago they tried to play according to as the Japanese do (with help from the Japanese), so they disbanded red 5's and little nuances which were allowed on EMA tournaments and was not according to Japanese play.
If i know more i will come back.
"The 2 minipoints for edge, closed or single wait can be claimed even if the hand is waiting for other tiles"
"The highest-scoring possibility decides which set is finished by the winning tile. Consider the following waiting
pattern".
As you said.
My apologies for the ruckus. This bug report can be closed.
Happy playing,
gilthe
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
