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#79582: "No character card drawn before the last round "

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2023年Jan21日 22:03 • Shiperu • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

2023年Jan22日 11:00 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

table 337652294
move 82
in round 8, i used midwife to take back farmer (don't know if that's relevant)
at the start of round 9, i have 4 cards in hand, 7 in my discard pile
the rider is still in my deck, but i have only 4 cards in hand
that affects my gameplay - i want to play the rider
as shiperu says, "At the end of each round draw cards up to 5."
refresh doesn't help

2023年Jan22日 16:54 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

table 337652294
move 92
this is annoying - if i have the rider in my hand, instead of languishing in my deck, i get the win
no bug, i use rider to swap field for river, 18 points
as it is, farmer / field scores me 8 points, and i lose by 1 point

2023年Mar26日 10:16 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

Same problem again, current game, #358491121

I have two days to make a move before I time out. I'll use those. Can a dev please look at this.

You can see that there are 7 cards in my discard pile, but only 4 in my hand. I should have drawn the farmer to hand in the final round, but I didn't.

I want to play the farmer; I think if I play the farmer, I win this game. But, due to this bug, the farmer is not available for me to play.

Can someone please look at this, as a spectator, and see the problem live.

2023年Mar31日 09:51 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

And the same bug again, table 360684860. I have three days to play; I'll use them to give devs a chance to look.

Going into the final round, I have just four cards in hand, but one, the falconer, undrawn, in my deck. As shiperu pointed out when he/she raised the bug, "At the end of each round draw cards up to 5." I have only four cards in hand; I have an orphan in my deck.

This time it makes no difference - I think I win the game anyway. But the first time this bug affected me, the bug cost me the game; the second time, I won on the completely random tie-break.

2023年Apr8日 18:42 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

Interestingly, in game 362925199 we see the flip side of this bug.

Round 9/9, at move 166, the game sticks, to allow one player to reveal whether he has a fighter in his hand.

The rules of the game state that, since this is round 9, he does have a fighter in his hand, since the fighter is not in his discard pile.

Why pause the game to allow said player to acknowledge a fact which is already known?

I understand that adapting board games for online play is difficult; and I understand the devs' reasons for not automatically revealing this information rounds 1-8.

But, bar this bug, by round 9, we all know what cards the other players hold. Why delay the game?

To reiterate though, the bug is about leaving a card in a player's deck in round 9, when it should be in their hand.

This is a good game, and well adapted, bar this bug.

2023年Jun8日 15:14 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

Same again, this game: 381599952

Round nine, I have a falconer in my deck, but it's not drawn to hand. Again, games rules violated.

Makes no odds on this occasion, I'm not playing the falconer, because I think pioneer wins the game for me.

Again, this is a good game, and well adapted, bar this bug.

2023年Sep13日 15:26 • autarkeia • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:

And again. Game 415704970.

Final round, I have four cards in my hand, with Falconer languishing in my deck.

I cancelled my subscription now: If you ain't fixing bugs, I ain't paying subs.

2023年Sep17日 10:13 • Moof • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

This bug couldn't be reproduced... A fix was applied in october 2022 about this, and no more bug reports about this except your.
Please make a new report bug if it occurs again (the bug report is needed to access game datas)

2023年Sep18日 08:05 • autarkeia • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

Moof,

I find it a little bizarre that the first time I get a response to this is when I say that I've cancelled my subscription. I understand that as a mod/dev, Asmodee have you over a barrel - they're more interested in releasing new content than in fixing existing content.

I went back to the bug in the original game specified by shiperu, which was 2023, after your 2022 supposed fix. I'm just a player, not a dev/mod, but I can see the bug just by playing through his game.

Go to move 60, then click through move by move. When you get to move 64, look at shiperu's position.
Where is shiperu's pioneer? It's round 9 of 9. You should be able to see shiperu's pioneer somewhere - in his discard pile or in his hand. But you can't - you can't see his pioneer.

This is a bug. I can see evidence of the bug simply by playing through the game specified in the original bug report. Why can you not do that?

2023年Sep18日 08:10 • Moof • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

There is absolutely no link with your agressive way of communication, just trying to fix things.
When a game is released, there are many false bug reports from people who didn't understand the rules (Maybe because the dev is not clear enough, but anyway). And I can't reply to all reports for specific points. That's the reason of the voting system.
As you replied many times, I gave a look to try to fix.

2023年Sep18日 14:21 • autarkeia • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

Moof,

I genuinely don't understand why you describe my comments as aggressive.

I stated a simple series of facts, one by one. The facts I state clearly demonstrate that: I am right; you are wrong; there is a bug; and you could easily have confirmed that there is a bug, by following the steps I specified. You could still do that now.

When stating facts is deemed aggressive, then the world becomes a poorer place.

I did nothing more than state facts. There is a bug. Not only in the game I played recently, and several before that, but also in the one shiperu played in nine months ago.

I used no abusive language. I simply stated facts: There's a bug; I'm right; you're wrong.

If you are emotionally upset by a simple statement of facts, then you should perhaps spend your time a different way. I'm not sorry for stating simple facts, regardless of your emotional reaction to them.

2023年Oct15日 19:58 • autarkeia • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

And again.

Game 426418052. Move 82. Where is my Hunter? Not in my hand; not in my discard pile.

Turn 9/9, my Hunter sits laughing at me in my deck. That should not be possible.

Makes no odds this time - I wouldn't play the Hunter anyway. Still a bug, unfixed for more than a year though: Shame on Asmodee.

Moof's assertion that "This bug couldn't be reproduced" is simply untrue. You could reproduce this bug by going to the move I suggest in this message, or that which shiperu suggested in his original bug report. Asmodee is not genuinely interested in fixing bugs: Fact.

2024年Aug7日 19:35 • BenDop • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

imgur.com/a/TLS50Uo

I have a hand of 4 cards going in to the last round, when there is still 1 card available to draw.

2024年Nov24日 18:55 • konsul • 開發者需要更多資訊以重現這項錯誤:

This happened to me at table 593254716, move 60:

boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/241121-1458/?table=593254716&player=89260230&comments=89260230;#

Since I had played the midwife, the twelfth card (in this case: oracle) had not been in play, yet, and could have been drawn from the pile.

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