#82163: "When tile bag is empty, criteria to end game is not clear and inconsistent"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
Game end.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Game end.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
Game end.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
Game end.
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
Game end.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
-
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
Game end.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v110
案件沿革
In fact, neither of us had any playable tiles left, but if that's why the game ended, there should be a message to say so.
- one of the players finishes all her tiles (finish at end of round), or
- there are no more tiles in the tile bag, and both players have passed (I can't find this in the rules, but I think this is the intent)
Here's the behavior I've observed so far:
- If the tile bag is empty, and there are no more playable tiles, the game ends. This is not a bug, it's a nice feature since both players would have to pass anyway, so it saves time. But there should be a message saying that there are no more playable tiles, otherwise it's confusing, especially because you can only see your own tiles and can't know whether the opponent still has playable tiles.
- I have observed that the game suddenly ends if the last tile is drawn and the player passes. This happens even if there are other playable tiles in the game, so I think this is a bug. (Game 356638896: I drew the last tile, which was not playable, but I had other playable tiles).
- Once we overcome the possible early end right after drawing the last tile, the game properly continues until both players pass or there are no more playable tiles. Again, I think it would be nice to have a log message that the game ended because both players passed.
It seems that whenever the last tile is drawn and not played, the game ends. I think that is a bug.
In game 364656677, my opponent didn't want to draw the last tile because she was aware of this "rule". She commented that she didn't want to draw the tile because she didn't want the game to end if it was unplayable.
If it is a feature and not a bug, I would like the option to turn it off.
In game 365086373, my opponent drew the last tile, passed, and the game didn't end. It ended when I passed after that.
This is just messed up, someone needs to fix it! Make it consistent, and add messages explaining why the game ended, please!
Bag empty, after passing a few times and my opponent almost catching up, the game decided to end. They probably could have played and caught up if they were allowed to play. This has been critical in other games but I don't have links for those. Wish we knew exactly what the criteria are.
In this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=701411728
Then this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=701421576
Players who know about this can use it to their advantage.
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
