#8591: "Roundrobin tournament can't be configured with slightly delayed match starts"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
In a roundrobin tournament usually all matches start at the same time.
I wanted to have a new match start at every 3 days, while the maximum total match time was set at 15 days.
It didn't let me set the dates, claiming that new matches should start at least 15 days later, but there is absolutely no need to wait for the previous match to end in roundrobin. They start simultaneously anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
In a roundrobin tournament usually all matches start at the same time.
I wanted to have a new match start at every 3 days, while the maximum total match time was set at 15 days.
It didn't let me set the dates, claiming that new matches should start at least 15 days later, but there is absolutely no need to wait for the previous match to end in roundrobin. They start simultaneously anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
In a roundrobin tournament usually all matches start at the same time.
I wanted to have a new match start at every 3 days, while the maximum total match time was set at 15 days.
It didn't let me set the dates, claiming that new matches should start at least 15 days later, but there is absolutely no need to wait for the previous match to end in roundrobin. They start simultaneously anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
In a roundrobin tournament usually all matches start at the same time.
I wanted to have a new match start at every 3 days, while the maximum total match time was set at 15 days.
It didn't let me set the dates, claiming that new matches should start at least 15 days later, but there is absolutely no need to wait for the previous match to end in roundrobin. They start simultaneously anyway. -
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
In a roundrobin tournament usually all matches start at the same time.
I wanted to have a new match start at every 3 days, while the maximum total match time was set at 15 days.
It didn't let me set the dates, claiming that new matches should start at least 15 days later, but there is absolutely no need to wait for the previous match to end in roundrobin. They start simultaneously anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
In a roundrobin tournament usually all matches start at the same time.
I wanted to have a new match start at every 3 days, while the maximum total match time was set at 15 days.
It didn't let me set the dates, claiming that new matches should start at least 15 days later, but there is absolutely no need to wait for the previous match to end in roundrobin. They start simultaneously anyway. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Don't remember exactly, but something like this:
New matches should start at least maximum game time later. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v61
案件沿革
When setting up starting times for a round robin tournament
the system checks whether rounds overlap
and disallows overlaps.
This check is foolish and should be omitted.
In fact, it can be tedious to have many real-time games at the same time.
The bug, however, has devastating consequences for turn-based games:
round-robin tournaments with overlapping rounds would be the only reasonable time scheme that combines both:
1) a manageable length of the tournament
2) a sufficient amount of time for players to complete their games.
Perhaps the best solution is to downgrade the error messages from errors to warnings.
I tried a time scheme with 3 games every 2 weeks - but this fails to, because you can't choose 14 days playing time, only 15. So my game plan moves by one weekday per cycle, bad for people who like consistency.
Please remove the overlap check für turn-based round robin!
What I did: I scheduled Game 4, Game 7, Game 10 and Game 13, with distances of 15 days. It was impossible to schedule Game 5 and 6 for the same day as Game 4, I had to leave it at ASAP.
And it seemed to be good! Before the beginning of the tournament, BGA showed me that 3 games would start every 15 days.
And now, after the tournament has started? Games 4, 7, 10 and 13 are waiting as scheduled. All other games have startet on day one. Impossible to manage for my players!
迴轉壽司 #101814482 /33%
Without any other information, my expectation would be that a round-robin tournament would work similarly to a Swiss tournament, where players all finish their first round 1 game, then all start their round 2 game against the next player.
But I recently joined a round-robin turn-based tournament, with playing hours that were not in my local timezone (see other bug: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33960 ), and all 7 of the games started bang, bang, bang, about 5-10 minutes apart, all within about 1 hour.
I had no warnings and since holiday time jokers do not work for tournaments, I was lucky that I was only kicked out of 1 game, suffering a small karma penalty. The other 6 players were kind enough to attempt to play it out with my negative clock, although 3 of those games still ended by hitting the maximum game length (and I lost with my negative clock).
Please display the expected staggered start times on the main tournament information page, along with an estimate of the possible maximum number of simultaneous games that you might need to play.
I qualified for round 2, and was hit with 11 simultaneous games. Way too overwhelming. Unable to concede the games because it's a tournament, so I threw all 11 and lost intentionally. I will not be doing another tournament anytime soon, because this is such a ridiculous, bad experience.
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37055
When we set up ourselves round robin turn by turn matches, there shouldn't be an overlap check.
So no issue with having a player with 14 matches launched at the same time, but if 2 matches overlapped, that's a no x)
RR tournament setup should simply include a drop down option to choose the time gap between starting each match. This way players that sign up can confirm the pace of new games starting. This would be a huge improvement on the current system which defaults to 0 time between new games regardless to game duration (real time or slow) and has match scheduling hidden.
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- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
