#86908: "Able to go back after playing Assertion card and seeing what Base Conservation Project opponent took"
這是關於哪方面的案件？
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細節描述
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
No, it may not have even been in this game that I took back my Assertion Play
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
No, it may not have even been in this game that I took back my Assertion Play
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
No, it may not have even been in this game that I took back my Assertion Play
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
No, it may not have even been in this game that I took back my Assertion Play
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
No, it may not have even been in this game that I took back my Assertion Play
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
No, it may not have even been in this game that I took back my Assertion Play
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
-
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Doesn't say that it's a rule, formally, but it does feel like you've gained information.
I went back because my opponent kept the Base Conservation Project that I wanted to play, and I played a different animal (without Assertion) instead. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v112
案件沿革
The second player to do so should NOT be able to do a take-back if the Conservation Project card is still in the opponent's hand.
I dunno where a discarded base conservation project goes to.
The discard pile? Back to the base conservation projects pile to be potentially drawn again?
My intuition is that it goes into a separate discard pile for Base Conservation Projects.
I feel this way because that's what I do with final scoring cards in a 4 player game, which becomes relevant when both cards with Resistance get played, and resultantly, during the course of the game we need to draw more Final Scoring cards than exist in the deck.
Note that this could result in the top of the discard deck showing a different back in rare cases, and players just need to do a random selection method (such as shuffling) without looking -- the same as pilfering from a hand that contains a base conservation project.
About your main point, it does seem to me that the second player shouldn't get a take-back because they can deduce the taken conservation project. However, it is a very minor edge case:
* Two DIFFERENT players must both get Assertion animals (there are only two of these in the game).
* The second player must play their Assertion animal before the first player plays their project.
* Even if this very rare case happens, in most cases I suspect it is obvious which project the first player wants, e.g. they have 4 Asia icons and the Asia project is not visible.
I think perhaps this bug is not fixed
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
