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#87310: "Burgle Bros - Loitering check"
#87310: "Burgle Bros - Loitering check"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v112
案件沿革
2023年 4月27日 4:00 • Ditto11 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
My original thread to review with others is here - however, hasn't gotten much attention - yet.
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30165
In the linked .zip is a flowchart showing the logic, and it should be reasonable easy to fit into, and after some additionally games. and review, I think it should be reasonable robust.
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30165
In the linked .zip is a flowchart showing the logic, and it should be reasonable easy to fit into, and after some additionally games. and review, I think it should be reasonable robust.
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