#8774: "Free Trade Zone"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case -
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
yes, move #180
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Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
yes, move #180
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v62
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
yes, move #180
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
yes, move #180
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
yes, move #180
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Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v62
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
yes, move #180
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v62
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Free Trade Zone says 'Grey world require two fewer settlers to complete (but no fewer than two)'
I had one die on a 1-cost grey world, settle phase happened, but I did not settle the world. The only reason for this I can imagine is because of the 'no fewer than two' restriction of FTZ, but in this case it should not be applicable, I guess, because it should not make settling a world more expensive in any case • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v62
案件沿革
TAble 36851575
Move 125
Opponent has a single die settlement and a die is placed on the settlement, but the settlement is not resolved.
Table #39960392
1 point gray world cost 2 dice. 2 point gray world took 2 dice.
A 1-cost grey world took 2 dice to settle.
A 1 cost grey world needs more to settle
Regarding to the other entries: okay, that really sound weird.
my entry: table 44035007, turn 147: I've already had a die on a 2-world, build than the ftz and then happens a settle phase again with no effect. In the first I've assumed that the condition is not checked again as long as I spent no dice in that phase (should be checked regardless of that), but looking at the other entries there may also some miscalculation when solving the effect.
Table no. 44802613
Move no. 191
And it is "wrong" according to the game creator's response on BGG:
boardgamegeek.com/article/18197147#18197147
This is wrong and probably caused by the "(minium 2 cost)" line of Free Trade Zone.
Game: #72611830
Move 177 :9:00:15 PM
magicPepper baut Fünfte Kolonne (Kosten: 2).
Table #87194582
Move #281
You can see it in the screenshot. A die sits on a 1-cost world and it is somehow not completed.
imgur.com/0MfCGuI
The clarification by the co-designer at boardgamegeek.com/thread/1312841/article/18197147#18197147 clears up the confusion: This really is a bug.
Table ID #95709387
Fifth Column is played for a cost of 2 at move #421.
imgur.com/a/m5agWh9
Table: 112948449
Green player
Move #148
Same problem - built high-gravity world and it should have taken one die, but took two, tying up multiple dice on the world below, that should have also been completed in the same turn. I also had free trade zone, and suspect that for grey worlds, it is reducing the build cost by 2, then topping up to 2, even if the cost started at 1. Looks like it’s been a known problem for ages, and it just completely messed me up! Should be an easy fix, would appreciate for future. Many thanks.
That 1 cost grey worlds should be unaffected by Free Trade Zone.
Haven't had a chance to check the interaction with Replicant Robots but that should be checked at the same time.
boardgamearena.com/1/rollforthegalaxy?table=127697180
It failed to build fifth column even though it had a red die on it.
I also had a 3 cost grey world which required all 3 settlers even though I had Free Trade Zone
table #152154010
(last move, i didn't get the tile because of the bug... )
imgur.com/a/EqyMbbV
This bug is openned for 4 years ?!! ...
Why hasn't this bug been fixed? This is a 3 year old ticket first reported in 2018.
Table #159977651
Move #99
the "but no fewer than 2" cost restriction causes $1 grey worlds to be $2 (in my case it was High Gravity World)
Table # 1631600770
Move # 153
Table 176422142
Move #73
move: #216
I ran into this; my fifth columnists cost 2.
move 133/134
player red/ginsuknight
Had "free trade zone" and 3 planets queued up.
"High Gravity World" 1-gray, "Asteroid Belt" 2-brown, "Gateway Station" 3-gray with 4 settlers
"High Gravity World" charged me 2 rather than 1 so only "High Gravity World" and "Asteroid Belt" were built and all settlers were used.
Table 193595335.
Final move of the game. World did not build.
@MeglaGnome's comment from Jan 7th 2018 seems to apply: Free Trade doesn't seem to give a discount if the grey world already has a dice on it, or if you are settling multiple grey worlds in one settle phase.
Not only did it not settle a 2-cost gray world for 1 worker, but it then required 2 workers to settle a 1-cost gray world!
I'm not sure how to get ID numbers for individual moves.
I'm going to ask the other players to end the game by mutual assent
i had enough dice to pay two for high gravity world (which should cost 1) after playing rebel hideout same phase.
Move 70-73 (approximately)
Outlaw World (2 cost grey) and Rebel Hideout (2 cost grey) should cost 1 die to construct. But they both cost 2 dice. This is a potentially game-losing bug. I was going to also settle Terraformed World (5 cost grey) as well as the previous 2 worlds using only 5 dice due to a 4 die discount, but now I'm going to have to pay full price for all 3, ON TOP OF the fact that I was fishing for grey worlds using explore actions and discarding useful stuff because they weren't grey worlds.
boardgamearena.com/6/rollforthegalaxy?table=612998599&replayFrom=137
Table 612998599
Move 137ish
#692290697
F5 did not help, has happened on 2 consecutive tables
boardgamearena.com/table?table=699471199&replayFrom=149
It cannot be hard to fix this... it's a simple exception for the "min. 2" condition, maybe 5-10 lines of code, if one is generous...
imgur.com/a/PLoPh0e
This is wrong according to the game designer: boardgamegeek.com/thread/1283229/article/17709949#17709949
If you're reporting this bug again, no one is listening. They gave up development of this game about 2 minutes after it launched.
為本案件添加內容
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
