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#102233: "Better translations: Automatically block poor translators"
#102233: "Better translations: Automatically block poor translators"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Complaints about inadequate translations are frequent now in the forum. I think one factor about this problem is that the number of games on BGA increases so fast (which is generally appreciated) that we don't have enough translators of high quality to translate or correct everything.
In this thread boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&p=157282 the user named nessi made a suggestion I think would be quite helpful to increase translation quality:
"A suggestion would be that the system records how many translations of a translator (in percentage terms) are corrected: above a certain value, the translator receives a warning that his translations are not good. If the value rises higher, he is blocked (temporarily at first?) for a while."• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
2023年10月25日 12:30 • Thomas • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I don't like the suggestion, because the number of tranlated terms, that someone else modified, does not automatically mean, that the previous translation was incorrect.
1. Who says, that the edited version is the correct one? If someone aims for gift points only, he/she can edit existing perfect translations, and even can destroy them. The original translator will get blocked, the second translator destroyed the perfect translations and (if nobody notices that that next 30 days) will get gift points for that.
2. Who says, that the original translation is wrong? Maybe both translations are correct, e.g. you can translate "source" into German using "Quelle" or "Ursprung". It could happen, that at time of first translation, the official German rulebook was not available, so that both translations are correct. Later, the German rulebook gets published and someone changes all occurrences of "Quelle" to "Ursprung". The first translator did nothing wrong, because he could not know, that the German publisher prefers another translation.
Therefor: Please do report people that do bad translations, so that a moderator can check and block him/her. But do not automate this process.
1. Who says, that the edited version is the correct one? If someone aims for gift points only, he/she can edit existing perfect translations, and even can destroy them. The original translator will get blocked, the second translator destroyed the perfect translations and (if nobody notices that that next 30 days) will get gift points for that.
2. Who says, that the original translation is wrong? Maybe both translations are correct, e.g. you can translate "source" into German using "Quelle" or "Ursprung". It could happen, that at time of first translation, the official German rulebook was not available, so that both translations are correct. Later, the German rulebook gets published and someone changes all occurrences of "Quelle" to "Ursprung". The first translator did nothing wrong, because he could not know, that the German publisher prefers another translation.
Therefor: Please do report people that do bad translations, so that a moderator can check and block him/her. But do not automate this process.
2023年10月31日 14:51 • cigma • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
@Thomas: "Who says, that the edited version is the correct one? Who says, that the original translation is wrong?"
The community does, just as it does now. This is the way, BGA has "solved" this problem. Of course, this system is not free from errors or the possibility of exploiting it. But unless BGA implements a huge change, it's the system we have. I think automatic blocking would improve this system significantly without much effort.
I'd prefer moderating as well, but due to the high demand for linguistic staff it's very unlikely BGA wants to handle each case this way. And there are many (at least in German)!
The community does, just as it does now. This is the way, BGA has "solved" this problem. Of course, this system is not free from errors or the possibility of exploiting it. But unless BGA implements a huge change, it's the system we have. I think automatic blocking would improve this system significantly without much effort.
I'd prefer moderating as well, but due to the high demand for linguistic staff it's very unlikely BGA wants to handle each case this way. And there are many (at least in German)!
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