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#12774: "public civil cards"
#12774: "public civil cards"
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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細節描述
• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
it's visible at any moment• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
it's visible at any moment• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
it's visible at any moment• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
it's visible at any moment• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
ie
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
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案件沿革
2019年 6月14日 9:47 • tilalilalou • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Handbook states that "you MAY agree that any player must reveal his or her civil cards on request".
I change this ticket into a suggestion rather than a bug.
I change this ticket into a suggestion rather than a bug.
2019年 6月14日 9:47 • tilalilalou • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Vote it up if you would like civil cards in opponent hands to be visible.
2019年 7月29日 18:00 • Yack_san • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Correct - it's optional for all people to agree on such visibility ( i can argue on both sides whether it's useful or not:) ) . That feature is rather redundant to real-time games(when you should be focused what your oponnents doing:-)) but quite useful to long turn-based games when no chance to remember who did what 4 days ago :-)
2019年 8月 2日 17:24 • LordChambers • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I suggest that the tool tip which presently informs me "Card in Hand (Civil, Age III)" instead show the card as it appears when I mouse over the card row. Same existing tool tip, reused on another area of the interface.
The absence of this feature is likely to lose this player to the app.
The absence of this feature is likely to lose this player to the app.
2019年10月18日 10:46 • neo_en • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I think it can be an option when the table is created (like the pacific variant)
2020年 1月24日 0:08 • Broodja • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I disagree it should be an option since you can anyway double-check log (unlike IRL), it brings nothing but inconvenience. Also showing opponent's card might motivate players to think more about indirect interactions between each other and improve quality of games.
2020年 4月23日 14:55 • Cedrix • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Agreed, an option for the game would be fine (by default show cards ;))
Upvote :)
Upvote :)
2020年 4月30日 10:35 • Goomboss • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
"you can anyway double-check log"
Yeah, the game is just few hours long, why not making it even longer with checking a log for every card insted of showing it? Civil cards in hand should be visible by default, the strategy of the game doesn't revolve around it. If you ask for hidden civil cards you are just a tryhard who doesn't want to have fun with an honest challenge.
Yeah, the game is just few hours long, why not making it even longer with checking a log for every card insted of showing it? Civil cards in hand should be visible by default, the strategy of the game doesn't revolve around it. If you ask for hidden civil cards you are just a tryhard who doesn't want to have fun with an honest challenge.
2020年 5月 1日 21:46 • Hertz Doughnut • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Should always be public. Why force the players to tediously scroll through the log to reconstruct the other players' hands?
2020年 5月17日 9:04 • Quilzar • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
In turn based game I 100% completely agree, I would prefer it to be in real time as well.
I would not mind it being optional either.
I would not mind it being optional either.
2020年 5月18日 20:55 • Himmelstosh • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Agree that civil cards in hand should be visible for everyone
2020年 5月22日 17:54 • Marcuda • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
@tilalilalou I am happy to work on this issue if you would grant me access to the code.
2020年 6月 5日 9:46 • junibegood • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
What the handbook says applies to real-life tabletop games only. In BGA, this information is already public (in the logs) and must remain public because of turn-based games.
We are discussing a GUI convenience feature, it does not change the game rules. If a choice must be made to use it or not, this should be a PLAYER choice, not a GM choice, either as an option (like those blue areas for automation features in Puerto Rico or Terra Mystica) or simply because displaying other players' civil cards requires an action. If you don't want to see other players' cards, you just don't click/hover on this feature.
That would really make everyone happy. :)
We are discussing a GUI convenience feature, it does not change the game rules. If a choice must be made to use it or not, this should be a PLAYER choice, not a GM choice, either as an option (like those blue areas for automation features in Puerto Rico or Terra Mystica) or simply because displaying other players' civil cards requires an action. If you don't want to see other players' cards, you just don't click/hover on this feature.
That would really make everyone happy. :)
2020年 6月29日 15:12 • GSS_Bandit • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
as junibegood already said: information what cards the other player(s) took, is already public in the log.
if i scroll down the log far enough, i can exactly determine what civil cards are in each players hand.
so, logical conclusion would be to make the information available for turn-based play and optionally available for real-time play.
if i scroll down the log far enough, i can exactly determine what civil cards are in each players hand.
so, logical conclusion would be to make the information available for turn-based play and optionally available for real-time play.
2020年 7月 5日 18:47 • Een • 本案件已由工作室的獎勵獵人宣告解決,需要進一步檢測及實裝:
Deployed. If not issues arises from the patch, this will be closed as fixed in about a week.
2020年 7月 5日 21:48 • Borup • 本案件已由工作室的獎勵獵人宣告解決,需要進一步檢測及實裝:
I like it for turn based games and I dislike it for real-time games.
2020年 7月 6日 11:23 • Waldoaless • 本案件已由工作室的獎勵獵人宣告解決,需要進一步檢測及實裝:
in the instructions, it says that you can decide whether or not to keep the cards face up in the hand. so it has to be something in agreement with all players and not a mandatory option.
deciding whether showing cards should be the option before creating a game.
deciding whether showing cards should be the option before creating a game.
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