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#52109: "Disruption comm countdown misleading on task selection. "
#52109: "Disruption comm countdown misleading on task selection. "
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
In missions with "disruption" (not allowed to comm until xth trick. There is a countdown on comm cards, counting down the number of tricks left until comms are allowed.
For a "disruption 3" mission, (not allowed to comm until the 3rd trick. Meaning there will be 2 tricks without any comms.
The countdown on the comm cards however, starts at 3 at the beginning of the mission, immediately going to 2 once task selection is over. This is misleading, as task selection is not in itself a trick, and comms are not allowed during task selection anyways, with or without disruption.
This can be confusing, for a dis2 mission for example (where only the first trick is without comm), the counter shows a 2, which could cause a player to mistakenly pick a different task than they otherwise would have, because they had an extra commless trick in mind.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v95
案件沿革
2021年11月 4日 2:18 • Tuut Tuut tis Luut • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I know the wording and icons for the disruption is already confusing on it's own, and I understand wanting to have the number on the countdown match the number on the disruption icon. But I'd still say it is misleading.
When playing, the countdown counts the number of tricks. So intuitively it makes sense to look at that number, and take that as the number of tricks you need to play before you can comm. As it is now, it seemingly considers the task selection to be a trick on it's own. Which is clearly is not.
Additionally, the countdown, which is not there in non-disr. missions, clearly implies a deviation from regular rules. Task selection however, is no different during disruption. In any other mission, you would also not be able to comm during/before selecting tasks. Counting it it in the countdown seems meaningless then.
In summary: Intuitively, it makes sense to think of the countdown as counting down number of tricks left to play. As it is now, however, task selection is counted, increasing it by 1. This means the number counting down doesn't correspond to tricks, and neither does it correspond to number of comms missed (task selection had no comm to take away). Making it ultimately arbitrary and misleading to include it in the countdown.
When playing, the countdown counts the number of tricks. So intuitively it makes sense to look at that number, and take that as the number of tricks you need to play before you can comm. As it is now, it seemingly considers the task selection to be a trick on it's own. Which is clearly is not.
Additionally, the countdown, which is not there in non-disr. missions, clearly implies a deviation from regular rules. Task selection however, is no different during disruption. In any other mission, you would also not be able to comm during/before selecting tasks. Counting it it in the countdown seems meaningless then.
In summary: Intuitively, it makes sense to think of the countdown as counting down number of tricks left to play. As it is now, however, task selection is counted, increasing it by 1. This means the number counting down doesn't correspond to tricks, and neither does it correspond to number of comms missed (task selection had no comm to take away). Making it ultimately arbitrary and misleading to include it in the countdown.
2021年11月 4日 2:24 • Tuut Tuut tis Luut • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Obviously, despite me using it as the first example in my report. This is not so much a problem with dis3 missions. Since no dis4 mission exists. Main issue is thinking the first 2 tricks will be without comm, rather than just the first, in disr2 missions. Which still happens to me from time to time, and can sometimes affect your choice of tasks.
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